You really think "Autobahn" outsold "I Feel Love"?
I know for a fact six people bought Kraftwerk's "Autobahn" -- The four band members, me, and me again because I lost my first copy.
I know for a fact that 2.7 million people bought Donna Summer's "I Feel Love". And four of those copies were bought by the guys in Karftwerk.
Look, once again, the influence is greater when the audience is larger. Seven people in Leipzig attending a Kraftwerk concert is no match for 120 million people buying Donna Summer records. I know Kraftwerk were brilliant....but if a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it, did it really influence anybody?
Nowhere did the previous poster say it outsold I Feel Love.
The thing is, I agree with your basic premise, but you sound so utterly ludicrous with your pointless exaggerations that I'm forced to disagree with you just on principle.
So, in your world, Patti Harrison (well-known for being George Harrison's wife and the inspiration for both Layla and Something) is NOT famous, and Clare Grogan IS?? Interesting....
I guarantee you that more people are aware of the lead singer of a band that had a few hits (one being the ever present "Happy Birthday") than are aware of George Harrison's wife.
I have to be completely honest with you. I am a HUGE Beatle fan. Know every note from ever song. Know (and go out and buy) the guitars and amps they used. Know their films back to front. Yet, I could not pick George Harrison's wife out of a lineup. We all know Yoko for obvious reasons, we all know Linda because of Wings. Ringo's Mo? Have no idea who she is. (I do know Ringo's second wife because of her being a 007 girl). But George's wife? Patti? Yeah, I know "Layla" was about her but that does not make her famous, recognizable, well known. The lead singer from Altered Images was known before the song about her came out. Patti Harrison? I actually thought George's wife's name was Olivia.
You are completely wrong if you think Patti Harrison is more famous than the (exceptionally hot) lead singer for a successful '80s pop band.
"Successful"?? No charting singles. No charting albums. I'm a HUGE music fan and I'd might have heard of them (that's heard OF them - I couldn't name one of their songs at gunpoint) once or twice. For sure I've never heard of ol' Clare-what's-her-name either. Patti was not only married to a Beatle, but she was the well-known inspiration for two timeless classics, not to mention the center of a rather famous (in rock circles) love-triangle. So yeah, I'd say she's more recognizable.
Are you aware that this thread is about "famous girls that inspired famous songs," not "famous songs that gave a girl some fame"?
Patti Harrison's claim to fame is she is the girl that "Layla" is about. She was not in anyway famous before the song that made her famous. She had no fame at all (if you believe being married to someone gives a lady value then you'd better talk to someone about that rather sexist view). No fame at all until "Layla." Please, tell me exactly what Patti Harrison was famous for before "Layla"? Was she an astronaut? A singer in a pop band? Did she find a cure for a disease? I really would love to hear what exactly made her famous.
Fact is, she wasn't. Some hardcore Beatle fans knew she was married to one of The Beatles, that's it. (Do you really think people across the world really were dying to know the name of the lead guitarist's wife? When we bought "Abbey Road" what was on our minds was "Who is the lead guitarist married to?" You really believe that?) She was known by a handful of Beatle die-hards, that's it. "Layla" gave her some modicum of familiarity, but once again, this thread is about famous women who inspired songs...not songs that made a girl famous.
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As far as I know, Patti Boyd was one of the leading models of the mid 1960's before she met George Harrison. Therefore, she meets your narrow criteria for this thread.
Uhh, that's Patti Boyd, not Patti Harrison.
Patti Boyd may have been a famous model (and I doubt that), but Patti Harrison was simply famous for the girl "Layla" was about. Once again this is not a thread about girls who were made famous by a song. It's a thread about famous girls that inspired songs.
She was Pattie Boyd until she married George Harrison, and was a very famous model but, uh... rage on, I guess?
Folks, I will offer an olive branch so we can end this back and forth over Clare Grogan. My following post will once and for all end this.
Many of you are missing the very point of this thread - you are ignoring the song itself written about a famous person. The song written about Clare Grogan is Spandau Ballet's "True." The facts are this: If you ask anybody in the world to name three songs off the top of their head, I guarantee you that one of them named would be "True." Every couple in the world that gets married dances their first dance to "True." (I don't want to brag but I am an historical scholar and I have learned that when Hitler married Eva Braun even the two of them danced to Spandau Ballet's song "True.") There really is no way to scientifically prove it, but the song "True" is most likely the most famous work of art in human history. I ask you this: can you quote a line from Aeschylus' play "The Eumenides" or can you quote a line from Spandau Ballet's song "True"? I rest my case.
The point is a person's fame is directly proportional to the level of fame the song written about him or her reaches. The song written about Clare Grogan "True" is easily one of the three most famous works of art ever. That makes Clare Grogan pretty famous, no?
This asshole starts a thread pretty much saying "why the fuck can't you play an instrument???"
When someone gives an honest answer he gets all belligerent as usual:
Your post makes little sense.
I get that you are SUPER-competitive, strive for the best... Well, if you are like that then music sure isn't the world for you. I find music to be more intimidating than even the super-competitive world of sports. In music not only does your talent have to be on or above the level of the players you play with, but your damn equipment has to be the best! If you ain't playing a Fender, Gretsch, Gibson, Rickenbacker...you are considered a nothing in the world of music. Not only that, you can't be playing an entry level Gretsch. Must be a Pro-line model. (I ain't kidding about that. Just go to a Gretsch guitar forum. More snobs there than at Buckingham Palace.)
Music is a hyper-competitive world. You don't know your chords, you can not participate. You don't have top gear, you can not participate. Simple as that.
Or you can own a $2500 guitar and be complete shit like rfreeman.
Not only that, you can't be playing an entry level Gretsch. Must be a Pro-line model. (I ain't kidding about that. Just go to a Gretsch guitar forum. More snobs there than at Buckingham Palace.)
Yeah, because we all know that only the most successful artists hang out on fucking musicians forums. It's not like those places are overrun with the exact same sort of deranged out of touch boomers you'll find at SHitville.
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