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Post by krabapple on Aug 15, 2022 21:18:05 GMT
Mofi claims they make their own digital (DSD) transfer of the master tapes the companies give them access to on-site. They've described the tape deck (modified Studer) and A/D converter (Meitner) they use. So either they really do this or they are hugely compounding a lie.
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Post by j365 on Aug 15, 2022 21:48:01 GMT
uh huh..
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Post by Mediocrates on Aug 29, 2022 18:31:56 GMT
CoryG85 is feeling ready to believe the hype.
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Aug 29, 2022 22:43:45 GMT
My Pro-Ject Essential III is sitting unused until I sell it. It features a quite audible motor noise transmitted through the pickup. All the Pro-Ject fixes I tried did nothing to help. The cheapish Fluance RT82 and Ortofon OM20 I replaced it with is pretty great in my stupid opinion. Any of you vinyl insider scholars wanna buy a Pro-Ject Essential III cheap?
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Post by UDII on Aug 30, 2022 0:35:29 GMT
My Pro-Ject Essential III is sitting unused until I sell it. It features a quite audible motor noise transmitted through the pickup. All the Pro-Ject fixes I tried did nothing to help. The cheapish Fluance RT82 and Ortofon OM20 I replaced it with is pretty great in my stupid opinion. Any of you vinyl insider scholars wanna buy a Pro-Ject Essential III cheap? TYME for a USB turntable?
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Aug 30, 2022 0:49:55 GMT
I lyke your stile.
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Post by UDII on Aug 30, 2022 3:55:51 GMT
Kwadguy and Arnold Grove have some competition in the Mofo/Mo-lie thread.
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Post by dccblowup on Aug 30, 2022 20:31:11 GMT
Don't want to get too SHitey here, but riddle me this: If Sony hasn't been letting tapes out of their vault for a long time, how did Chad Kassam get to do the Jeff Beck titles in 2015 as emanating from "the original analog tapes"?
The SHites are bending over backwards to fellate Chad but something doesn't smell right here at all and for me, I'm not sure it has in some time. It's one thing to use old stampers from Classic but the other releases are a different matter. How long can his ruse continue?
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Post by UDII on Aug 30, 2022 21:26:34 GMT
Don't want to get too SHitey here, but riddle me this: If Sony hasn't been letting tapes out of their vault for a long time, how did Chad Kassam get to do the Jeff Beck titles in 2015 as emanating from "the original analog tapes"? The SHites are bending over backwards to fellate Chad but something doesn't smell right here at all and for me, I'm not sure it has in some time. It's one thing to use old stampers from Classic but the other releases are a different matter. How long can his ruse continue? The only labels that exclusively used original master tapes were DCC and Audio Futility, I assume that is common knowledge.
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Post by ledzeppelin2rl on Aug 30, 2022 22:48:14 GMT
Don't want to get too SHitey here, but riddle me this: If Sony hasn't been letting tapes out of their vault for a long time, how did Chad Kassam get to do the Jeff Beck titles in 2015 as emanating from "the original analog tapes"? The SHites are bending over backwards to fellate Chad but something doesn't smell right here at all and for me, I'm not sure it has in some time. It's one thing to use old stampers from Classic but the other releases are a different matter. How long can his ruse continue? He has his own gimmicky overpriced UHQR vinyl to peddle to the Shites now that Mofi is on their shit list. There will be no digital confessions from Chad that's for sure.
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Post by krabapple on Sept 2, 2022 18:29:30 GMT
Don't want to get too SHitey here, but riddle me this: If Sony hasn't been letting tapes out of their vault for a long time, how did Chad Kassam get to do the Jeff Beck titles in 2015 as emanating from "the original analog tapes"? The SHites are bending over backwards to fellate Chad but something doesn't smell right here at all and for me, I'm not sure it has in some time. It's one thing to use old stampers from Classic but the other releases are a different matter. How long can his ruse continue? The exact wording, e.g. "emanating from", is what holds the key to how direct the access was to original mixdown master tapes. All kinds of amusing obfuscation can be locked in there. (amusing because I personally do not give a flying fuck if it was direct access, or access to a digital copy, but it drives the vinylfucks mental)
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Post by secretsauce on Sept 4, 2022 12:38:38 GMT
Don't want to get too SHitey here, but riddle me this: If Sony hasn't been letting tapes out of their vault for a long time, how did Chad Kassam get to do the Jeff Beck titles in 2015 as emanating from "the original analog tapes"? The SHites are bending over backwards to fellate Chad but something doesn't smell right here at all and for me, I'm not sure it has in some time. It's one thing to use old stampers from Classic but the other releases are a different matter. How long can his ruse continue? Labels are definitely not loaning tapes (of any kind, be they masters or not) to external reissue labels. That practise tailed off in the 1990s, and now that almost everything is owned by the Big 3 it has ceased. Labels do have the ability to cut "AAA" lacquers in-house, or through trusted third party studios, but that's different to what Chad Kassem is claiming to be doing. There is an Analogue Productions promo on YouTube where they talk about their painstaking audiophile processes and using "original master tapes". In that video, they very briefly show some of these tapes. What's strange is that these tapes are all in clean white boxes that have been marked up in the same style. They also show a tape of an album recorded in the '60s, but it's on 1/2" and there's a sticker on it saying 30 IPS ('60s tapes are generally 1/4" 15 IPS). Everything about these tapes is far too clean looking. So my guess is that one of the labels has agreed to provide Analogue Productions with 1:1 copies (from what? who knows) so that they can carry on with the claim of being all-analogue and sell their products at a premium. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I think it has potential to cross into similar deception territory as MoFi. These labels are happy for audiophiles to think that the records they're buying are cut all analogue directly from the original master tape (i.e. the actual master tape was playing and the signal was being fed to the cutting head) but that isn't really what's happening.
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Sept 4, 2022 17:12:09 GMT
Lock him up
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Post by krabapple on Sept 6, 2022 1:05:11 GMT
Labels are definitely not loaning tapes (of any kind, be they masters or not) to external reissue labels. That practise tailed off in the 1990s, and now that almost everything is owned by the Big 3 it has ceased. Labels do have the ability to cut "AAA" lacquers in-house, or through trusted third party studios, but that's different to what Chad Kassem is claiming to be doing. There is an Analogue Productions promo on YouTube where they talk about their painstaking audiophile processes and using "original master tapes". In that video, they very briefly show some of these tapes. What's strange is that these tapes are all in clean white boxes that have been marked up in the same style. They also show a tape of an album recorded in the '60s, but it's on 1/2" and there's a sticker on it saying 30 IPS ('60s tapes are generally 1/4" 15 IPS). Everything about these tapes is far too clean looking. So my guess is that one of the labels has agreed to provide Analogue Productions with 1:1 copies (from what? who knows) so that they can carry on with the claim of being all-analogue and sell their products at a premium. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I think it has potential to cross into similar deception territory as MoFi. These labels are happy for audiophiles to think that the records they're buying are cut all analogue directly from the original master tape (i.e. the actual master tape was playing and the signal was being fed to the cutting head) but that isn't really what's happening. I don't know what Analog Productions is claiming, but Mofi seems to be claiming that they literally bring their own reel to reel and ADC gear to some facility run by the record company, and are given access to the original mixdown master tapes there, for as long as it takes to make their digital copy on-site.
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Post by secretsauce on Sept 6, 2022 11:57:50 GMT
Labels are definitely not loaning tapes (of any kind, be they masters or not) to external reissue labels. That practise tailed off in the 1990s, and now that almost everything is owned by the Big 3 it has ceased. Labels do have the ability to cut "AAA" lacquers in-house, or through trusted third party studios, but that's different to what Chad Kassem is claiming to be doing. There is an Analogue Productions promo on YouTube where they talk about their painstaking audiophile processes and using "original master tapes". In that video, they very briefly show some of these tapes. What's strange is that these tapes are all in clean white boxes that have been marked up in the same style. They also show a tape of an album recorded in the '60s, but it's on 1/2" and there's a sticker on it saying 30 IPS ('60s tapes are generally 1/4" 15 IPS). Everything about these tapes is far too clean looking. So my guess is that one of the labels has agreed to provide Analogue Productions with 1:1 copies (from what? who knows) so that they can carry on with the claim of being all-analogue and sell their products at a premium. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I think it has potential to cross into similar deception territory as MoFi. These labels are happy for audiophiles to think that the records they're buying are cut all analogue directly from the original master tape (i.e. the actual master tape was playing and the signal was being fed to the cutting head) but that isn't really what's happening. I don't know what Analog Productions is claiming, but Mofi seems to be claiming that they literally bring their own reel to reel and ADC gear to some facility run by the record company, and are given access to the original mixdown master tapes there, for as long as it takes to make their digital copy on-site. That's simply absurd. Digitising a tape requires some/all of the following: Assessment of the asset, possible baking (+1 day), physical restoration (+? hours), machine prep (head block, EQ, Dolby), machine warm-up (+? hours), digitisation. Quite a lot of the time when you put the tape on you realise that you're missing an additional reel that's supposed to go with it (+? days for asset retrieval, baking, etc). So at what point in this process are MoFi turning up and doing their transfer? And what happens when the reel they were expecting to digitise turns out to require a set-up that's different to their special machine that they keep talking about. Logistically, their claim doesn't make any sense.
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