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Post by Brick Wall on Jan 14, 2018 17:54:07 GMT
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Post by PacificOceanSpew on Jan 14, 2018 17:58:18 GMT
Looks like this thread was nuked?
No love for ole' Charlie over there. Even the RIP Charlie thread was nuked.
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Post by antiram on Jan 14, 2018 17:58:33 GMT
You didn't have an option for 30 seconds... It's gone. Oh, and Beausoleil had his moments...
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Post by aaa-appreciator on Jan 14, 2018 18:05:59 GMT
They nuked one the other night on someone wanting to discuss the “snowflake generation”. I was getting ready for a good read and in a few moments it was gone!
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Post by Mediocrates on Jan 14, 2018 18:12:09 GMT
They nuked one the other night on someone wanting to discuss the “snowflake generation”. I was getting ready for a good read and in a few moments it was gone! Another thread about Boomers? Pass.
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Post by aaa-appreciator on Jan 14, 2018 22:45:04 GMT
They nuked one the other night on someone wanting to discuss the “snowflake generation”. I was getting ready for a good read and in a few moments it was gone! Another thread about Boomers? Pass. They were slagging off millenials until a couple millenials waded in, looked like it was going to get good with the usual poaters voicing their intolerance for a younger generation but I guess the Gorts decided no room for any confrontation in the forum.
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Post by jeatletoes on Jan 15, 2018 0:35:06 GMT
Damn millenials and their non-Beatles, non-chain restaurant ways!!!
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Post by UDII on Jan 15, 2018 0:39:15 GMT
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Jan 15, 2018 3:55:17 GMT
You didn't have an option for 30 seconds... It's gone. Oh, and Beausoleil had his moments... I've heard Manson's LIE album. Total crap, even as a novelty (at least the profits go to the family of one of the victims.) Beausoleil on the other hand made the Lucifer Rising soundtrack. Impressive enough just for the content, but even more so considering that it was made in prison.
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Post by antiram on Jan 31, 2018 18:00:04 GMT
I don't know if anyone has been following the drama of what will become of ole Charlie's bones, but I've kept tabs on the Manson family ever since I read Helter Skelter and The Family (the latter by Ed Sanders of the Fugs and a lot creepier than Bugliosi's DA account in his book) at a much too impressionable age. Just to summarize quickly, a few years back, a hardcore Manson acolyte (not a 'family' member, just some fan) who goes by the name "Wolf" struck up a friendship of sorts (based on mutual exploitation of course) with the old man. He called him and visited him regularly. He had a young chick of a girlfriend, named "Star" who kept visiting Manson even after Wolf got locked up for smuggling a cellphone to Charlie. As the story goes, Star (in her twenties) and Charlie (then in his seventies) fell in love and decided to wed. Shortly thereafter, there were headlines proclaiming "Manson engaged!" and the girl gave interviews about the upcoming nuptials. Manson himself never confirmed outright that any marriage was going to happen, but this girl made whatever rounds there are to make on the interview circuit, showing off a ring, and news stories reported with the assumption the marriage was on... At this point in the story, we might be thinking how Manson was using these two deluded dummies, stringing them along for commissary credits or whatever else he could get. After all, that's how he'd operated since he was a teenager. However, in this case, the joke was on Manson. These two latter-day Mansonites had a gruesome and macabre plan. The idea was to marry Manson, wait for the old bugger to die, claim his corpse as is the right of a spouse in California, and then take his remains on the road, for real, as part of the ultimate Mansonobilia Show. Needless to say, once Manson got word of this, whatever coy possibilities of marriage he had been dangling were immediately rescinded, and Star's visits ended. Not sure what Star and Wolf are up to now. Flash forward to today. Manson's body still remains unclaimed, two parties have been fighting over it in a Los Angeles court. One is a memorabilia dealer and pen-pal of Manson's, much in the same mold as Wolf, who says Manson willed him the body in a letter. The second is a man who has claimed to be Manson's grandson for years, but past evidence has suggested that maybe he is not (no DNA tests were made). It is probable that neither party is acting altruistically here... Jumping into the fray last week is Manson' son by real Mansonite Mary Brunner, who seems to just want it to end. The Los Angeles County court, for its part, after weeks has now decided "not our problem" and is telling everyone to file in Kern County, where Manson died, or Kings County, where he was incarcerated. www.insideedition.com/charles-mansons-grandson-says-hes-committed-fighting-grandfathers-body-40270I guess a crazy ending was to be expected to such a crazy story. But if you think Beatards are nucking futs, try immersing yourself in the world of Mansontards.
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Post by AnalogRearEnd on Jan 31, 2018 18:32:08 GMT
Fandom. Ya gotta love it.
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Post by graucho on Jan 31, 2018 21:30:16 GMT
I don't know if anyone has been following the drama of what will become of ole Charlie's bones, but I've kept tabs on the Manson family ever since I read Helter Skelter and The Family (the latter by Ed Sanders of the Fugs and a lot creepier than Bugliosi's DA account in his book) at a much too impressionable age. Just to summarize quickly, a few years back, a hardcore Manson acolyte (not a 'family' member, just some fan) who goes by the name "Wolf" struck up a friendship of sorts (based on mutual exploitation of course) with the old man. He called him and visited him regularly. He had a young chick of a girlfriend, named "Star" who kept visiting Manson even after Wolf got locked up for smuggling a cellphone to Charlie. As the story goes, Star (in her twenties) and Charlie (then in his seventies) fell in love and decided to wed. Shortly thereafter, there were headlines proclaiming "Manson engaged!" and the girl gave interviews about the upcoming nuptials. Manson himself never confirmed outright that any marriage was going to happen, but this girl made whatever rounds there are to make on the interview circuit, showing off a ring, and news stories reported with the assumption the marriage was on... At this point in the story, we might be thinking how Manson was using these two deluded dummies, stringing them along for commissary credits or whatever else he could get. After all, that's how he'd operated since he was a teenager. However, in this case, the joke was on Manson. These two latter-day Mansonites had a gruesome and macabre plan. The idea was to marry Manson, wait for the old bugger to die, claim his corpse as is the right of a spouse in California, and then take his remains on the road, for real, as part of the ultimate Mansonobilia Show. Needless to say, once Manson got word of this, whatever coy possibilities of marriage he had been dangling were immediately rescinded, and Star's visits ended. Not sure what Star and Wolf are up to now. Flash forward to today. Manson's body still remains unclaimed, two parties have been fighting over it in a Los Angeles court. One is a memorabilia dealer and pen-pal of Manson's, much in the same mold as Wolf, who says Manson willed him the body in a letter. The second is a man who has claimed to be Manson's grandson for years, but past evidence has suggested that maybe he is not (no DNA tests were made). It is probable that neither party is acting altruistically here... Jumping into the fray last week is Manson' son by real Mansonite Mary Brunner, who seems to just want it to end. The Los Angeles County court, for its part, after weeks has now decided "not our problem" and is telling everyone to file in Kern County, where Manson died, or Kings County, where he was incarcerated. www.insideedition.com/charles-mansons-grandson-says-hes-committed-fighting-grandfathers-body-40270I guess a crazy ending was to be expected to such a crazy story. But if you think Beatards are nucking futs, try immersing yourself in the world of Mansontards. Remember seeing Star's videos before she got engaged to Manson, and thinking she seemed incredibly fake. Did you ever come across that oddball Nikolas Schrek (think that's his name)? Think he was married to Anton La Vey's daughter. He was a longtime Manson apologist and wrote what appears to be an overlong, conspiracy theory theory biography, a sort of super delux box set equivalent for Mansonites.
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Post by antiram on Feb 1, 2018 4:54:14 GMT
I don't know if anyone has been following the drama of what will become of ole Charlie's bones, but I've kept tabs on the Manson family ever since I read Helter Skelter and The Family (the latter by Ed Sanders of the Fugs and a lot creepier than Bugliosi's DA account in his book) at a much too impressionable age. Just to summarize quickly, a few years back, a hardcore Manson acolyte (not a 'family' member, just some fan) who goes by the name "Wolf" struck up a friendship of sorts (based on mutual exploitation of course) with the old man. He called him and visited him regularly. He had a young chick of a girlfriend, named "Star" who kept visiting Manson even after Wolf got locked up for smuggling a cellphone to Charlie. As the story goes, Star (in her twenties) and Charlie (then in his seventies) fell in love and decided to wed. Shortly thereafter, there were headlines proclaiming "Manson engaged!" and the girl gave interviews about the upcoming nuptials. Manson himself never confirmed outright that any marriage was going to happen, but this girl made whatever rounds there are to make on the interview circuit, showing off a ring, and news stories reported with the assumption the marriage was on... At this point in the story, we might be thinking how Manson was using these two deluded dummies, stringing them along for commissary credits or whatever else he could get. After all, that's how he'd operated since he was a teenager. However, in this case, the joke was on Manson. These two latter-day Mansonites had a gruesome and macabre plan. The idea was to marry Manson, wait for the old bugger to die, claim his corpse as is the right of a spouse in California, and then take his remains on the road, for real, as part of the ultimate Mansonobilia Show. Needless to say, once Manson got word of this, whatever coy possibilities of marriage he had been dangling were immediately rescinded, and Star's visits ended. Not sure what Star and Wolf are up to now. Flash forward to today. Manson's body still remains unclaimed, two parties have been fighting over it in a Los Angeles court. One is a memorabilia dealer and pen-pal of Manson's, much in the same mold as Wolf, who says Manson willed him the body in a letter. The second is a man who has claimed to be Manson's grandson for years, but past evidence has suggested that maybe he is not (no DNA tests were made). It is probable that neither party is acting altruistically here... Jumping into the fray last week is Manson' son by real Mansonite Mary Brunner, who seems to just want it to end. The Los Angeles County court, for its part, after weeks has now decided "not our problem" and is telling everyone to file in Kern County, where Manson died, or Kings County, where he was incarcerated. www.insideedition.com/charles-mansons-grandson-says-hes-committed-fighting-grandfathers-body-40270I guess a crazy ending was to be expected to such a crazy story. But if you think Beatards are nucking futs, try immersing yourself in the world of Mansontards. Remember seeing Star's videos before she got engaged to Manson, and thinking she seemed incredibly fake. Did you ever come across that oddball Nikolas Schrek (think that's his name)? Think he was married to Anton La Vey's daughter. He was a longtime Manson apologist and wrote what appears to be an overlong, conspiracy theory theory biography, a sort of super delux box set equivalent for Mansonites. Oh yes, I know of Shreck. I actually like some of his videos, just for what a stiff and pompous windbag he is. I also had the first edition of his book The Manson Files, which was interesting for some of the arcana it contained, but was larded up with junk from Shreck's past that had nothing to do with Manson, like Satanism and White Supremacy (Manson had a passing interest in both, but neither one was central to what he was; being a lifelong convict was central to who he was) There is a brilliant take-down of Shreck's entire career (which was essentially self-aggrandizing opportunism, with zero substance and less than zero humor, he has always been 100% poser) I found on the 'net. Yes, it is written by a LaVey acolyte, but he tells a good story: dblackthorne.tripod.com/wolfsliar.htmlThe whole page is an interesting if text-dense read. Heheh, this guy sure has his number... A perhaps less biased bio appears here: www.detoxorcist.com/satanism-and-the-far-right.html Still paints him as a charlatan poser though...
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Post by bellycheck on Jun 27, 2018 10:50:42 GMT
Manson wasn't that bad of an artist. He was better than most rappers.
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Post by bradman on Jun 27, 2018 20:39:47 GMT
How about a warning before laying down such a hot take?
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