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Yoko
Jan 19, 2018 23:23:24 GMT
Post by Brick Wall on Jan 19, 2018 23:23:24 GMT
Yoko. That's right, fuckers. Yoko. Busted up McCartney's little circle jerk club. About fucking time, too. She's got serious artistic talent to spare. You go, girl.
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Yoko
Jan 20, 2018 4:23:09 GMT
Post by antiram on Jan 20, 2018 4:23:09 GMT
I will say this: when Lennon said his best guitar work is on Yoko's albums, he was telling the truth. Which means 95% of his fanboys have never heard his best playing (some of Plastic Ono Band was in a similar vein, but it is restrained).
I'm hit and miss with Yoko, but she was legit and she did influence a lot more successful singers and even bands than most SHites are willing to admit.
I do dig her 16-minute "Mind Train" which is mesmerizing, heavy, and even scary. And it (and Lennon) rock. He wasn't what you'd call a "great" guitarist, but he did have a good sense of rhythm, tone, and texture. Had he had an opportunity in the 60's to stretch out a little, he might have been better. As with all Beatles, being a Beatle probably stunted his growth as a musician. At the very least, you could say he had his own sound. At least on Yoko's albums.
Her pop phase of the 80's-90's wasn't for me, though. But no hate here; I consider her a pioneer.
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Yoko
Jan 20, 2018 20:14:54 GMT
Post by biscuitsinthewindow on Jan 20, 2018 20:14:54 GMT
On the strength of the Two Virgins cover, I'd hit it.
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Yoko
Jan 20, 2018 21:01:53 GMT
Post by hoffa_nagila on Jan 20, 2018 21:01:53 GMT
I will say this: when Lennon said his best guitar work is on Yoko's albums, he was telling the truth. Which means 95% of his fanboys have never heard his best playing (some of Plastic Ono Band was in a similar vein, but it is restrained). I'm hit and miss with Yoko, but she was legit and she did influence a lot more successful singers and even bands than most SHites are willing to admit. I do dig her 16-minute "Mind Train" which is mesmerizing, heavy, and even scary. And it (and Lennon) rock. He wasn't what you'd call a "great" guitarist, but he did have a good sense of rhythm, tone, and texture. Had he had an opportunity in the 60's to stretch out a little, he might have been better. As with all Beatles, being a Beatle probably stunted his growth as a musician. At the very least, you could say he had his own sound. At least on Yoko's albums. Her pop phase of the 80's-90's wasn't for me, though. But no hate here; I consider her a pioneer.There's something about her work starting with Double Fantasy that just came off increasingly bland. And for someone like her, bland is perhaps the most offensive thing she could be. From Rising on, she was cool again. When I got into her work, she was pretty inactive, at least musically. Then her Yes I'm A Witch album was announced. I wasn't really sold on the idea of it: artists covering her songs and using her vocal tracks to make a remix/mash-up kind of thing. But then I heard this playing over the loudspeakers at the old Virgin Megastore: Thankfully she did return to music and had a good run too. As for Lennon's guitar work, that's rock n roll. It's raw, it's dangerous. It isn't Junior's Farm thumping away with some lyrics that perhaps can be considered "topical." It isn't wasted backing Lennon's contrived nonsense. What's funny is that Yoko's Feeling The Space and John's Mind Games feature the same cast of musicians.
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Yoko
Jan 21, 2018 1:10:28 GMT
Post by graucho on Jan 21, 2018 1:10:28 GMT
I do dig her 16-minute "Mind Train" which is mesmerizing, heavy, and even scary. And it (and Lennon) rock. He wasn't what you'd call a "great" guitarist, but he did have a good sense of rhythm, tone, and texture. Had he had an opportunity in the 60's to stretch out a little, he might have been better. As with all Beatles, being a Beatle probably stunted his growth as a musician. At the very least, you could say he had his own sound. At least on Yoko's albums. Her pop phase of the 80's-90's wasn't for me, though. But no hate here; I consider her a pioneer. Yes that track is brilliant. The funkiest and most out there any Beatle got was on a Yoko record, who most of their fans dismiss as being a talentless ho.
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Yoko
Jan 21, 2018 1:18:06 GMT
Post by biscuitsinthewindow on Jan 21, 2018 1:18:06 GMT
Wow, a pro Yoko thread on SC. Didn't see that coming. You guys are edgy
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Yoko
Jan 21, 2018 9:23:27 GMT
Post by Ago on Jan 21, 2018 9:23:27 GMT
Her solo stuff can be hard work, but she stuck to her guns amidst all the hatred being flung her way. At her most inaccessible, she was far more tolerable than her abusive husband. She has also outlived several SHites too.
Worship the avant-muff.
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Yoko
Jan 21, 2018 9:57:44 GMT
Post by hoffa_nagila on Jan 21, 2018 9:57:44 GMT
I do dig her 16-minute "Mind Train" which is mesmerizing, heavy, and even scary. And it (and Lennon) rock. He wasn't what you'd call a "great" guitarist, but he did have a good sense of rhythm, tone, and texture. Had he had an opportunity in the 60's to stretch out a little, he might have been better. As with all Beatles, being a Beatle probably stunted his growth as a musician. At the very least, you could say he had his own sound. At least on Yoko's albums. Her pop phase of the 80's-90's wasn't for me, though. But no hate here; I consider her a pioneer. Yes that track is brilliant. The funkiest and most out there any Beatle got was on a Yoko record, who most of their fans dismiss as being a talentless ho. I got Fly months before my first iPod. I knew all the songs on disc 2 were long avant garde pieces, but I hadn't noticed that Mind Train was an extended track too. I didn't know when it would end.
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