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Post by hugofuguzev on Nov 14, 2018 13:25:27 GMT
And still this prick goes on.... " I know for a fact that Giles and his team at have worked on Let It Be material. He may NOT have started on Abbey Road yet. There is a plan in place. Ron" What a twat. And just how exactly do you know that "for a fact", Ron? Which one of yer imaginary "insider sources" told you? What a saaaaaaad, pathetic motherfucker.
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Post by darthparrox on Nov 14, 2018 13:31:50 GMT
And just how exactly do you know that "for a fact", Ron? Which one of yer imaginary "insider sources" told you? Dick33 of course
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Post by audiobile on Nov 14, 2018 13:49:29 GMT
I know for a fact that brainsquashed is a complete waste of skin. He may NOT be taking his meds as directed. There is a plan in place.
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Post by ivan on Nov 14, 2018 13:51:34 GMT
And just how exactly do you know that "for a fact", Ron? Which one of yer imaginary "insider sources" told you? Dick33 of course FAO darthparrox,
I enjoyed your posts on Bootlegzone.
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Post by hugofuguzev on Nov 14, 2018 14:00:25 GMT
And just how exactly do you know that "for a fact", Ron? Which one of yer imaginary "insider sources" told you? Dick33 of course Right. So Nikh's imaginary sources told Ron's imaginary sources, in other words. I wonder if Nikh and Ron are ever gonna pick up on the fact -a true fact, not an alternative fact or a completely made up fact like what they spew constantly- that less and less of the SHiTE Beatards are buying into their bullshit. These days it's mainly only the newbies/young'uns who hang on their every word, a lot of the veteran SHiTEs seem to know better.
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Post by daved on Nov 14, 2018 14:05:53 GMT
Gee what a genius.
Let's see...they did Pepper....White Album.....so they miiiiiight do Abbey Road? Maybe? Possibly?
Twat.
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Post by darthparrox on Nov 14, 2018 15:49:48 GMT
FAO darthparrox,
I enjoyed your posts on Bootlegzone.
That's not me, i just stole nick from that insane faggot (who claimed to be a woman after posting as "men" for eternity)
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Nov 15, 2018 8:25:20 GMT
oof
Pretending to be an "insider," pretending to be a woman. That's almost as bad a pretending to be a renowned remastering engineer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:08:15 GMT
oof
Pretending to be an "insider," pretending to be a woman. That's almost as bad a pretending to be a renowned remastering engineer.
Or a 13 year old child ....
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Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Nov 19, 2018 19:32:03 GMT
Anyone know who's doing the count-in for Not Guilty? Upthread it's mentioned that John Lennon is on harpsichord according the the box set notes, and I'd always assumed that the count-in was from whoever was playing (a non-Beatle) The notes are wrong. Chris Thomas on harpsichord. He acknowledged this decades ago. He played electric piano on the first session, switched to harpsichord on day 2. He was also paid a session fee for his work which is verified in print. John is not on the backing track. Ron The notes are not wrong. John is on harpsichord (electric piano for the early takes). Chris Thomas played harpsichord on Piggies. That's incorrect. Chris played harpsichord on BOTH songs. And he was paid a session fee for BOTH songs. Ron Oh boy. George Martin produced the sessions for Not Guilty, with Ken Scott engineering and John Smith as tape op. Chris Thomas not only played the harpsichord, he suggested the instrument change from the previous session. The recording note is in error if it lists John. Ron I believe Thomas also played piano on Long Long Long. Can't recall if he did so as an overdub, or as part of the backing track. A song John was not present for. I'll post the interview later, but in 1998 or so, Thomas talks about playing harpsichord on Piggies, but thought he was kicked off the session because he couldn't play in time. Well? He most certainly is on the master and his playing is just fine. Could it be he was recalling that they couldn't get a satisfactory take for Not Guilty? In either case it exemplifies that people who "were there" can have faulty memories. Lennon on harpsichord? He never had played one before and never again. When George used the instrument later on it was Thomas manning the keys, not John. And this time John WAS at the session (assembling sound effects). I just find it extremely unlikely that John would be playing keyboards on a George song. In fact, either George himself or Paul played keyboards on ALL of George's post-1965 tunes, with the lone exception of Something where John's piano was all but mixed out of the finished master. If John was present at the Not Guilty sessions it would have been more likely that he would have banged around on bass or rhythm guitar, leaving the electric piano, later harpsichord, to Paul. Since he wasn't there, it makes complete sense for Thomas to help out on keyboards, leaving Paul on bass, and Martin in the control room to do his job. Ron Sorry, there is too much wRONg here, I have to correct it: • John played harpsichord on All You Need Is Love • he played keyboard (organ) on the basic track for While My Guitar Gently Weeps • his piano part on Something can be heard during the middle part John also played keyboard on the basic tracks for George songs before that: • electric piano on You Like Me Too Much • organ on Think For Yourself Ok, I'll grant you John originally played harpsichord somewhere in the backing of All You Need Is Love. The orchestra rather drowns it out. Of course George also plays violin during the backing track. which was basically replaced with real strings. According to Giles Martin, TODAY, John played bass on "Gently Weeps" . Yea, I'm not buying that either. Not sure anyone knows who plays what on that song. I said John played piano on Something, and it's ALMOST inaudible. A couple of chords during the bridge. I clearly said POST 1965.... why would you include two songs FROM 1965? Ron Nothing in the booklet about John and Paul singing backups on Not Guilty. Although there's MANY direct quotes from the session tapes and it seems that John DID play electric piano on the early takes and harpsichord on the later. So, my humble apologies for insisting it was Chris Thomas. As for Blackbird... John was in the control room during the session (George and Ringo were in California) but never attempted to play or sing. Not sure where the comment came from that John tried piano and a second guitar. No mention of that whatsoever. In fact, there's mention that there are two four-track tapes of SOLO performances and that the tape box was mis-labeled because there were so many takes. Ron Accepted... But I was talked down a lot in this case. But finally I'm proven right. I do apologize if I argued with you. I surely didn't intend to talk down to you and it just proves that not everything seen in print is true. I hope you accept my apology. Ron Come now... it has nothing to do with being a fan or not. Prior to this book it was widely presumed that Thomas played both electric piano and harpsichord on Not Guilty. Many scholarly books said so. There ancillary evidence from Thomas himself (and yes, even those who were there forget such details)... my best guess now is that Thomas was thinking of Piggies. So, if it was John perhaps we can start to understand why it never quite jelled. The harpsichord part is simple enough, but it just sits there. Apparently the waltz part was tricky (seems simple enough to me) and it caused issues throughout. What's more baffling is all the false starts and breakdowns just for the intro. Wonder if there was an altogether different intro early on? Ron Can you possibly say where you got the info regarding Chris Thomas and a session fee for Not Guilty Ron? (@brainwashed ) @brainwashed What's your source for Chris Thomas playing on Not Guilty? I've already responded to this several times. Various books, websites and recollections by Chris himself. It seems likely Chris was recalling Piggies and made a mistake years, decades later. It's also possible he played on some takes, but not all. The dialog quotes in the booklet by Howlett indicate John played on the sessions... but we don't if he played on all of them. Ron Since I'm about to talk to the person who was there, who is being mentioned as playing the part you cite, I hope you don't think my request for a more precise citation is uncalled for. Given that we have a document, reproduced in Chronicle, showing Chris Thomas was paid for performing on four songs, and none of them are "Not Guilty," I think it's best to begin there. Solid scholarship begins with verifiable facts, and documentation provides us those facts. I'm sure you'll agree that "various books and websites" does not constitute a solid citation. I will mention "Not Guilty" when I talk to Chris again; his memory seems to be very good on these points. That would be great. As I've said it was widely assumed Chris played the part. One or two members here thought it was John. Until the publishing of the new notes there was no definitive answer. I welcome your questions to Chris and look forward to his answer. Beatles Bible (a site often cited by members here) says it's Chris. Lewisohn doesn't say a blessed thing in his books. I can't recall if Anthology 3 says anything specific either way. Or the liner notes for the aborted Sessions album. Chris DID play on Piggies (harpsichord) and Long, Long, Long (piano) so it certainly wasn't a stretch to think he played on on Not Guilty. He also played the moog on " Bungalow Bill" It's possible I just had a brain freeze and remembered the payment stub and thought Not Guilty was the 4th track. Perhaps the 4th track was Savoy Truffle? Ron
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Post by audiobile on Nov 19, 2018 20:11:42 GMT
Nice to see these guys calling out Ron's bullshit for what it is. Maybe Solaris can poat some tasty quotes from his next conversation with Chris Thomas, on the topic of faux-insider genuine-tard Ron.
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Post by bradman on Nov 19, 2018 20:58:56 GMT
He's getting defrocked quickly.
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Post by daved on Nov 20, 2018 1:31:29 GMT
Credit where due, Solaris’ Beatles podcast is top notch
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Post by amygrant on Nov 20, 2018 3:56:55 GMT
Right. So Nikh's imaginary sources told Ron's imaginary sources, in other words. I wonder if Nikh and Ron are ever gonna pick up on the fact -a true fact, not an alternative fact or a completely made up fact like what they spew constantly- that less and less of the SHiTE Beatards are buying into their bullshit. These days it's mainly only the newbies/young'uns who hang on their every word, a lot of the veteran SHiTEs seem to know better. "You know kids, one time in the mid-70s, Paul and I smoked heroin together and drove a Camaro from LA to Seattle in 12 hours."
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Post by audiopro on Nov 20, 2018 13:31:06 GMT
Chris Thomas is a classically-trained keyboard player. John Lennon was a self-taught chord basher. It only takes one cursory listen to a few seconds of "Not Guilty" to establish the harpsichord part wasn't played by the former.
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