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Post by AnalogRearEnd on Apr 7, 2018 4:27:44 GMT
The Monkees are objetively shit though. I mean, let's be honest here.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Apr 7, 2018 4:57:28 GMT
The Monkees are our Nickleback. I think you might be right. Stereo Central exists to laugh at the pedantic antics of the SHites, yet when it comes to the Monkees, there's the same type of groupthink we constantly lambaste the SHites over. I give exactly zero shits if anyone likes the Monkees or not. That's not my point. Claiming the group was/is "talentless" is ludicrous. (And people here trying to feign ignorance of them by writing the name with a "y" is also quite silly...) They had a successful TV show that won a couple of Emmy awards. They sold a ton of records, including a few songs that have become as ingrained on U.S. pop culture as anything released by the Beatles. (Their most-recent album even went top-20 on the Billboard chart 50 years after the release of their first record.) Nesmith (whom I think is often quite pretentious), started a successful production company (and ran it for over 20 years), won a Grammy, and even prevailed over PBS in a contentious court case (and was awarded many millions of dollars as a result). [And unlike a certain trust-fund baby we all love, Nesmith continued to run his company after he got millions in a inheritance from his mother.] The other three parlayed an unlikely revival in 1986 into the most-financially successful tour of that year. So, yeah, the Monkees obviously had/have great appeal to many, many people. There are many artists I can't stand. I just don't feel compelled to constantly point that out if their name comes up. (But, as they say the biggest gay bashers are often closet cases themselves, maybe the same phenomenon is happening here in regards to the Monkees as well...) As far as fun, brainless pop rock goes, The Monkees are pretty damn good. They are a Beatles parody, so certainly there is an amount of "bashing" that should be done a bit tongue and cheek. The issue is that they are pre-fabricated fun and fluff, meant to be enjoyed, but the Shites analyze, decrypt, and dissect them in a way that completely misses whatever point or purpose they had. The way they worship and cream themselves over The Beatles is awful enough, but I feel like The Beatles (or those close to them and who financially benefit from their exploitation) purposefully promote that type of behavior. I can only speak for myself, but it's not the Monkees that bother me. If anything, more power to them! It's the shites who I can't stand. In general, I come here because we can skewer the sacred cows. Over there, it's impossible. There is a terrifying group think over there. Like for the Beatles: just about everything they did is great, except for Revolution 9. All remixes are bad, but the more recent they are, the worse they are. Disagree with any of that and you will be told why you are wrong. Outside of this board, I never talk about the Monkees. Or Joni Mitchell. Or Rush. And whatever opinions presented here are usually a tad exaggerated. That being said, fuck you and the Monkee you rode in on.
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Post by Wanklein on Apr 7, 2018 6:20:14 GMT
Yes - It is a little ludicrous but the ludicrous is funny. But to be honest most of their songs were written for them Songs the MoonKeys lack the ability to write themselvesI don't really give a fuck what music anybody likes or dislikes or if someone else writes songs for them but as highlighted above this is about the SHiTe's fundamentalist devotion and playground mentality to music from 1963-1976. I take the piss out of vinyl, physical media, high end audio, mastering engineers etc for all the same reasons. The Monkeys did make a few cracking singles and I do own a "best of" album but other than that those primate twats can fuck off.
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Post by Wanklein on Apr 7, 2018 6:28:54 GMT
But as the OP I think this thread has become somewhat derailed.
Gorts can you edit the thread and return it back to the serious subject of Yummy Tacos.
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Post by bradman on Apr 7, 2018 6:33:32 GMT
The Monkees are our Nickleback. I think you might be right. Stereo Central exists to laugh at the pedantic antics of the SHites, yet when it comes to the Monkees, there's the same type of groupthink we constantly lambaste the SHites over. I give exactly zero shits if anyone likes the Monkees or not. That's not my point. Claiming the group was/is "talentless" is ludicrous. (And people here trying to feign ignorance of them by writing the name with a "y" is also quite silly...) They had a successful TV show that won a couple of Emmy awards. They sold a ton of records, including a few songs that have become as ingrained on U.S. pop culture as anything released by the Beatles. (Their most-recent album even went top-20 on the Billboard chart 50 years after the release of their first record.) Nesmith (whom I think is often quite pretentious), started a successful production company (and ran it for over 20 years), won a Grammy, and even prevailed over PBS in a contentious court case (and was awarded many millions of dollars as a result). [And unlike a certain trust-fund baby we all love, Nesmith continued to run his company after he got millions in a inheritance from his mother.] The other three parlayed an unlikely revival in 1986 into the most-financially successful tour of that year. So, yeah, the Monkees obviously had/have great appeal to many, many people. There are many artists I can't stand. I just don't feel compelled to constantly point that out if their name comes up. (But, as they say the biggest gay bashers are often closet cases themselves, maybe the same phenomenon is happening here in regards to the Monkees as well...) Monktard detected.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Apr 7, 2018 6:42:01 GMT
I think you might be right. Stereo Central exists to laugh at the pedantic antics of the SHites, yet when it comes to the Monkees, there's the same type of groupthink we constantly lambaste the SHites over. I give exactly zero shits if anyone likes the Monkees or not. That's not my point. Claiming the group was/is "talentless" is ludicrous. (And people here trying to feign ignorance of them by writing the name with a "y" is also quite silly...) They had a successful TV show that won a couple of Emmy awards. They sold a ton of records, including a few songs that have become as ingrained on U.S. pop culture as anything released by the Beatles. (Their most-recent album even went top-20 on the Billboard chart 50 years after the release of their first record.) Nesmith (whom I think is often quite pretentious), started a successful production company (and ran it for over 20 years), won a Grammy, and even prevailed over PBS in a contentious court case (and was awarded many millions of dollars as a result). [And unlike a certain trust-fund baby we all love, Nesmith continued to run his company after he got millions in a inheritance from his mother.] The other three parlayed an unlikely revival in 1986 into the most-financially successful tour of that year. So, yeah, the Monkees obviously had/have great appeal to many, many people. There are many artists I can't stand. I just don't feel compelled to constantly point that out if their name comes up. (But, as they say the biggest gay bashers are often closet cases themselves, maybe the same phenomenon is happening here in regards to the Monkees as well...) Monktard detected. Says Peter Tork
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Post by Wanklein on Apr 7, 2018 6:56:27 GMT
back to Tacos! MAYBEIMAMAZED poated this picture and said: Yes I thought of STeVe as well when I saw that that pile of chilli that looks like it came straight from MYKE's arse.
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Post by Chicken in Black on Apr 7, 2018 7:01:31 GMT
As an Ashkenazi Jew, Steve isn't supposed to post about food made out of corn until later tonight.
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Apr 7, 2018 7:31:57 GMT
I think you might be right. Stereo Central exists to laugh at the pedantic antics of the SHites, yet when it comes to the Monkees, there's the same type of groupthink we constantly lambaste the SHites over. I give exactly zero shits if anyone likes the Monkees or not. That's not my point. Claiming the group was/is "talentless" is ludicrous. (And people here trying to feign ignorance of them by writing the name with a "y" is also quite silly...) They had a successful TV show that won a couple of Emmy awards. They sold a ton of records, including a few songs that have become as ingrained on U.S. pop culture as anything released by the Beatles. (Their most-recent album even went top-20 on the Billboard chart 50 years after the release of their first record.) Nesmith (whom I think is often quite pretentious), started a successful production company (and ran it for over 20 years), won a Grammy, and even prevailed over PBS in a contentious court case (and was awarded many millions of dollars as a result). [And unlike a certain trust-fund baby we all love, Nesmith continued to run his company after he got millions in a inheritance from his mother.] The other three parlayed an unlikely revival in 1986 into the most-financially successful tour of that year. So, yeah, the Monkees obviously had/have great appeal to many, many people. There are many artists I can't stand. I just don't feel compelled to constantly point that out if their name comes up. (But, as they say the biggest gay bashers are often closet cases themselves, maybe the same phenomenon is happening here in regards to the Monkees as well...) Monktard detected. Just calling out hypocrisy, slick. (But, while on the subject, I do like much of the group's output. Dolenz sang anything co-written by Carole King well.)
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Post by Chicken in Black on Apr 7, 2018 7:56:01 GMT
Guys, if it turns out that all your praise for Mark David Chapman is actually a provocation and a joke, I’m out of here.
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Post by daved on Apr 7, 2018 9:25:33 GMT
Da fuck is wrong with you people?
now you’ve pretty much guaranteed no full time return from Remaster Bates.
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Post by AnalogRearEnd on Apr 7, 2018 14:22:51 GMT
The Monkees are objetively shit though. I mean, let's be honest here. By that logic, though, you could say that most pop music is objectively shit. And I wouldn't necessarily disagree. That said, I don't think that the Monkees are objectively any better or worse than most of their contemporaries were. If anything, they probably lean toward being one of the better pop acts of that era, for whatever that's worth, i.e. not much. I am no Monkees fan, but I do readily admit that they had a more solid string of memorable singles than the Beach Boys did or grade D acts like the Hollies or whomever. And some of the singles the Beatles were putting out concurrently with the Monkees were truly sub-par, far worse than the best Monkees records. "Hello, Goodbye"? "All You Need Is Love"? "Lady Madonna"? Garbage that would be long forgotten (and rightfully so) if they didn't have the Beatles name attached to them. But, yeah, it is not about the Monkees, per se. Or the Beatles or the Beach Boys or Joni Mitchell or any other past golden oldie pop music. It is about the SHites and their ludicrous elevation/dissection/memorializing/etc.
Yeah, I can't really disagree with any of that. And I myself enjoy some lighthearted pop fluff from time to time, no shame in that really. I just don't pretend that it's high art.
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Post by daved on Apr 7, 2018 14:40:11 GMT
I’ve been listening to lots of BTO lately and not only do I know their stuff is mostly trash I : A) enjoy it B) don’t give a fuck what any of you dipshits think
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Post by thisonehurts on Apr 7, 2018 15:12:53 GMT
I'm sure Lester Bangs once said that if music isn't complete shit, objectively speaking, then you're not doing it right.
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Post by MOUNT SUT on Apr 7, 2018 17:32:34 GMT
Peter Tork? Ah shit, lol. I'd rather be a Monkee than a Beach Boy, but if I gotta be one @ least it's an egotistical alpha asshole rather than a retarded "genius" like Brian Wilson. Both bands share a common thread in that on some of their big "achievements", it was the Wrecking Crew that played rather than the bands. As far as Steve's "taco" thread, it's just further evidence that he's aware that he is plummeting into irrelevance as far as his career, but it keeps his name near the top of his board as those who love Mexican cuisine keep bumping it for awhile. He knows that will be more popular than the Buck Owens threads he's created or bumped.
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