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Post by hoffa_nagila on Oct 25, 2017 11:33:20 GMT
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Post by antiram on Oct 25, 2017 13:29:04 GMT
The first flaw in the argument (or the shit in the SHite Head) is that unless a bona-fide superstar is sharing a duet or performing a signature solo (Eddie Van Halen on "Beat It" for example), it is unlikely to affect rekkid sales much. However, if that is the case, then their participation is obvious, named or unnamed.
If the participation is more subtle, then any sales bump is negligible at best. How many people bought albums by new or little-known artists just for the sake of hearing Stevie Winwood playing keyboards on a track or Slash strumming along? Precious few, is my guess. Maybe a handful of SHites will buy music they hate to get their precious Paulie, but they (and Paulie) are exceptions to the rule. How many Dead Head SHites ever bought that Ornette Coleman album with Jerry on a track?
So, how would naming ringers on a jacket who don't actually appear actually help sales, beyond a dozen or so obsessives? ShockControl makes it sound like a huge scandal, duping millions of people.
The second flaw in the argument is what happens if the superstar is asked about his appearance on the rekkid in an interview? "So, Sting, how did you come to guest on that flop album by the Podunks in 1987?" Is he supposed to lie about it for the rest of his life? For the sake of some forgotten smallfry artist? GTFO
WTF am I doing? I am arguing with SHite logic. These are the same monkeys who thought someone spray-painted an album in orange so he could cheat someone out of $20,000 on eBay...
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 25, 2017 14:43:50 GMT
The first flaw in the argument (or the shit in the SHite Head) is that unless a bona-fide superstar is sharing a duet or performing a signature solo (Eddie Van Halen on "Beat It" for example), it is unlikely to affect rekkid sales much. However, if that is the case, then their participation is obvious, named or unnamed. If the participation is more subtle, then any sales bump is negligible at best. How many people bought albums by new or little-known artists just for the sake of hearing Stevie Winwood playing keyboards on a track or Slash strumming along? Precious few, is my guess. Maybe a handful of SHites will buy music they hate to get their precious Paulie, but they (and Paulie) are exceptions to the rule. How many Dead Head SHites ever bought that Ornette Coleman album with Jerry on a track? So, how would naming ringers on a jacket who don't actually appear actually help sales, beyond a dozen or so obsessives? ShockControl makes it sound like a huge scandal, duping millions of people. The second flaw in the argument is what happens if the superstar is asked about his appearance on the rekkid in an interview? "So, Sting, how did you come to guest on that flop album by the Podunks in 1987?" Is he supposed to lie about it for the rest of his life? For the sake of some forgotten smallfry artist? GTFO WTF am I doing? I am arguing with SHite logic. These are the same monkeys who thought someone spray-painted an album in orange so he could cheat someone out of $20,000 on eBay...
Other examples include The Beach Boys and The Fat Boys - Wipeout
It sounds like The Fat Boys played all the instruments too.
The Beach Boys and The Fat Boys - Wipeout
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Post by screendump on Oct 25, 2017 15:26:42 GMT
WTF am I doing? I am arguing with SHite logic. You got impetus'd. |
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Post by audiopro on Oct 25, 2017 17:10:21 GMT
The original pressings of Brian Wilson's 1988 solo LP contains printed testimonials and guest appearances from other artists who were also on Warner Brothers. Given how Dr Landy was subsequently deprived of his songwriting and production credits when it was reissued, it might be interesting to know if Terence Trent Darby does actually sing on it, or if it was just reflected glory marketing bullshit.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Oct 25, 2017 18:06:46 GMT
How many people bought albums by new or little-known artists just for the sake of hearing Stevie Winwood playing keyboards on a track or Slash strumming along? Damn, that hits too close to home. I did discover some cool shit though so no regrets. The only thing I can think of remotely similar to the topic is some messing around with writing credits. Maybe the artist is credited as a co-writer, but a quick check with the publishing company reveals their absence. Just a ploy to make the music seem more personal. (Not that the databases are always accurate or reliable either, but that's something else altogether...) Or I could come up with some examples where a famous musician did contribute to another artist, but maybe get associated with the wrong song or something, but that's gotta be chalked up to poor research or a quick copy paste job and certainly no example I can think of would have anything remotely to do with sales. Whatever Shocky knows is either bullshit or too inconsequential for just about anyone to care about. |
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Oct 25, 2017 18:13:36 GMT
And I just went back to the thread, seconds before it went POOF. And glad I did, or I would have missed this:
Rfreeman
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Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Oct 25, 2017 18:32:14 GMT
I have an example. George Harrison did not appear on one side of Electronic Sound, which was entirely performed by Bernie Krause Also Eric Clapton did not perform on Bye Bye Love on George Harrison's Dark Horse album. And Ringo did not perform drums on Love Me Do on the Please Please Me album. Moe Tucker is credited with drums on Loaded but she doesn't. |
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Post by audiopro on Oct 25, 2017 18:35:40 GMT
Ringo did hit the tambourine on the LP version of Love Me Do, though. Right into the fucking microphone by the sound of it.
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