The World Without the Beatles
Jul 9, 2018 17:30:05 GMT
Post by gobshite on Jul 9, 2018 17:30:05 GMT
forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-world-without-the-beatles.760545/
Profile says "female", (as does the avatar cartoon), yet refers to the thread as "her" when there is a challenge?
Beccabear67 (after some people suggest the world might have gone on without the Fabs):
Profile says "female", (as does the avatar cartoon), yet refers to the thread as "her" when there is a challenge?
Beccabear67 (after some people suggest the world might have gone on without the Fabs):
Shut her down?
There are just people who absolutely can't have the Beatles be so important. They'll keep googling to find any kind of 'facts' or seeming holes to back them ad nauseum, which isn't really interesting or engaging, it's just people having to educate them mostly, over and over and over. Rather than Beatles fans being the blindly obsessed it seems the Beatle knockers to me are the really backwards driven ones. Ultimately negative because it's just like a kid saying I want it to be my way, The Beatles aren't so great, they don't matter anymore, look at The Who or The Kinks or The Stones, that 'proves it'. I want that Gram Parsons is super-duper huge and Mike Nesmith is non-existant and that everyone has to agree to this. I want that the fourth Burritos album doesn't count because it's live and live means 'not real' to me even if it was all new material. I want that Holland bought albums based on the Burritos name to not have been real. I want this and not that, in capital letters, and that the liar beccabear67 to always have been wrong and me to be right after searching wikipedia for my information for twenty minutes each time to 'win'. None of these artists negatively pit themselves against each other that I know of, it's these so-called fans who do that... but fans who are more haters than lovers, so they call something crap or an artists a non-entity, say sales or awards don't matter when they don't suit them, those are part of a conspiracy and somehow not as 'real' as their grading. You'd only have to look at the sales charts and awards for the Beatles to see objectively how big the impact was and still is. Somehow if they can just get one small detail straight on their own over you though their opinion will trump everything in history. They can be seen to be wrong and misunderstand hundred times but if you miss something just once then you are the liar.
The hater type has aggressively wrecked my thread, turned it into something petulant, personal, a lot of attitude and attack. You wrecked two others before it pitting artists who have given so many enjoyment against each other in your view of things, who often enough were actually friends and admired each others talents and skills. It's like that Cranberries song Zombie, 'in your head, in your head, they are fighting'. They were never fighting in mine! Congratulations, another 'win'. No fun. Try being a genuine fan of something in a positive sense sometime, spend more time listening and learning and enjoying, not closing off, not making it about you and your little rankings and categorizings that are of no great interest to others. Oh, and learn to not have to dominate the rap jack when you've got nothing new to say. But again, just leave me alone; you don't respect me at all, can't agree with anything I write, don't respect artists I treasure, why post on my thread so much, why so unable to leave when asked?
I tried to start a fun and fairly light topic, fun for people knowledgeable in music history, not an un-ending battle with agendists bent on cutting Beatles and those who value them down. You could've started your own thread for that. Sure, you can say no Beatles and nothing changes, or that we can't really know, or Elvis absolutely would've become president based on I say so. Great, bye then. After you say those things there's nothing more to say obviously and it's not a thread for you, no harm no foul, just end of road, can't go anywhere. Bye. Why ruin things for those who do want to enjoy detailed looks at how things might have been different based on what we do know?
This now a Zombie thread to me.
There are just people who absolutely can't have the Beatles be so important. They'll keep googling to find any kind of 'facts' or seeming holes to back them ad nauseum, which isn't really interesting or engaging, it's just people having to educate them mostly, over and over and over. Rather than Beatles fans being the blindly obsessed it seems the Beatle knockers to me are the really backwards driven ones. Ultimately negative because it's just like a kid saying I want it to be my way, The Beatles aren't so great, they don't matter anymore, look at The Who or The Kinks or The Stones, that 'proves it'. I want that Gram Parsons is super-duper huge and Mike Nesmith is non-existant and that everyone has to agree to this. I want that the fourth Burritos album doesn't count because it's live and live means 'not real' to me even if it was all new material. I want that Holland bought albums based on the Burritos name to not have been real. I want this and not that, in capital letters, and that the liar beccabear67 to always have been wrong and me to be right after searching wikipedia for my information for twenty minutes each time to 'win'. None of these artists negatively pit themselves against each other that I know of, it's these so-called fans who do that... but fans who are more haters than lovers, so they call something crap or an artists a non-entity, say sales or awards don't matter when they don't suit them, those are part of a conspiracy and somehow not as 'real' as their grading. You'd only have to look at the sales charts and awards for the Beatles to see objectively how big the impact was and still is. Somehow if they can just get one small detail straight on their own over you though their opinion will trump everything in history. They can be seen to be wrong and misunderstand hundred times but if you miss something just once then you are the liar.
The hater type has aggressively wrecked my thread, turned it into something petulant, personal, a lot of attitude and attack. You wrecked two others before it pitting artists who have given so many enjoyment against each other in your view of things, who often enough were actually friends and admired each others talents and skills. It's like that Cranberries song Zombie, 'in your head, in your head, they are fighting'. They were never fighting in mine! Congratulations, another 'win'. No fun. Try being a genuine fan of something in a positive sense sometime, spend more time listening and learning and enjoying, not closing off, not making it about you and your little rankings and categorizings that are of no great interest to others. Oh, and learn to not have to dominate the rap jack when you've got nothing new to say. But again, just leave me alone; you don't respect me at all, can't agree with anything I write, don't respect artists I treasure, why post on my thread so much, why so unable to leave when asked?
I tried to start a fun and fairly light topic, fun for people knowledgeable in music history, not an un-ending battle with agendists bent on cutting Beatles and those who value them down. You could've started your own thread for that. Sure, you can say no Beatles and nothing changes, or that we can't really know, or Elvis absolutely would've become president based on I say so. Great, bye then. After you say those things there's nothing more to say obviously and it's not a thread for you, no harm no foul, just end of road, can't go anywhere. Bye. Why ruin things for those who do want to enjoy detailed looks at how things might have been different based on what we do know?
This now a Zombie thread to me.
