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Post by bratstrangler on Nov 3, 2017 16:54:43 GMT
can someone please explain the die-hard defense of Rega? shit overpriced turntables no better than a u-turn this bunch can’t seem to get enough of.
assholes like morbius, jon9091, strat-mangler, american hi-fi... egged on by the resident shills KT88 and Goldprint....
someone please help me understand the love. this bunch of sheep in constant sideways mode - New P6! MUST SELL OLD RP6!
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Post by Mediocrates on Nov 3, 2017 17:05:46 GMT
Is this the turntable that requires an additional device to run at the correct speed?
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Post by screendump on Nov 3, 2017 19:13:54 GMT
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Post by bratstrangler on Nov 3, 2017 19:30:05 GMT
they'll drone on with their overanalysis of imagined benefits of the tiniest details.
but a turntable running out of spec.... no problem
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Post by screendump on Nov 4, 2017 7:27:53 GMT
Direct drives have sturdier motors because they also have to support the platter. This scares audiophools because of possible vibration. Belt, idler or direct drive, they all use synchronous motors. The extra tech for a direct drive is just proprietary stuff for speed adjusment, add-on circuitry to directly alter the motor current. Most of that stuff is, I've been told, Radio Shack level.
I had an old 1950's Rek-O-Kut radio station rig - 1/2 inch bare plywood box, a deep cast-metal platter like a flywheel set in what looked like an automobile wheel cup-bearing. The tonearm was a straight skinny chrome tube with a crude cart mount and a cheap-looking spring looped around the fixed counterweight and gimbal joints. The spring was anchored with a set screw for adjusting tracking weight by trial-and-error. It had a single speed synchronous idler drive (set up for 45's only) about the size of a sewing machine motor, and ran silent and steady and sounded great.
Until the wiring literally crumbled (it was already past 30 years old when I got it) it played as reliably as anything I've had since, and it was as crudely engineered, and ugly, as a lawn mower.
Lose the cosmetics & all turntables are no-bullshit simple.
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Post by daved on Nov 4, 2017 9:38:17 GMT
You mean the piece of garbage I had to sell because I had to change speeds by taking off the platter and moving the belt? You mean the piece of shit that every time I played it on 45 RPM the belt would fall off? You mean the shit show I sold 4 months later and brought back up my $10 garage sale Technics direct drive to use instead?
Yeah no idea what the fascination is.
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Post by hoofyflipflops on Sept 29, 2021 16:50:17 GMT
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but it always seemed to me that the audiophool bias against direct drive turntables was really due to the fact that direct drive mechanisms require some real R & D, tooling and manufacturing that is beyond the means of the average "boutique high end" junk purveyor. Any fool can thread a rubber band around a motor shaft and slap it underneath a varnished plinth or ridiculous Rube Goldberg polished brass monstrosity, which is pretty much what all of these current "high end" turntables are. That is literally why I have a Music Hall though. The thing is idiot proof. I can't fix a fucking direct drive if I wanted to. Above my mechanical aspirations. I can thread that rubber band pretty good though |
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Post by essayceedee on Sept 30, 2021 0:08:46 GMT
I don’t know what you’d ever have to repair on a DD turntable. They were beautifully engineered and overbuilt.
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Post by kingdiamond on Oct 2, 2021 0:19:55 GMT
I can't say whether DD or belt drive is better. I had a DD turntable as part of a full rack system I bought at a Lechmere department store in the late 80s and it was a piece of shit. But that was when turntables were an afterthought next to CD players. Most of the other tables I've owned have been belt drive, but not for any particular reason. I've never worn out a belt or had an issue with stability. Maybe under a microscope or something, but nothing my aging ears can appreciate.
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