genesim purifies Garth Brooks
Nov 5, 2018 19:22:47 GMT
Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Nov 5, 2018 19:22:47 GMT
Doing some collections and having problem with Garth Brooks
Let me give an example. Led Zeppelin easy...all albums, with B-side Hey Hey What Can I Do and ending with Baby Come on Home and Travelling Riverside Blues because they were released as singles and had new recording aspects so I consider them "new" singles.
I don't worry about chronological too much because like with Coda, there are newer aspects in the production and it sits really well as an album. However I modified in one way. NO and I say again, NO repeats of songs. I Can't Quite You Baby had to go and the original is superior to me anyway.
SO in the end DONE. Black Sabbath (Ozzy Only with bonus tracks and last album), Van Halen (bonus tracks with last album)..these are really easy as well and I call them pure.
Metallica, a little more tricky. With the release of ...And Justice for All remastered I wanted to go back to the well and fix a few things. No cover tunes and no guest appearances (and yes I consider the whole LuLu album exactly that!). So what that leaves me is main albums with the single of No Leaf Clover (since it is originally written by them) and cutting out all tribute stuff. Just pure Metallica with the only exception being the bonus stuff from Death Magnetic which I call a new kind of E.P. that moves their career forward...
So yeah...this is an exception, because it normally falls under b-sides but at least it is produced new material. Besides if you cut it, wouldn't you have to technically cut Re-Load? HELL NO! Oh yeah and I included I Disappear from the Mission Impossible soundtrack since they wrote it.
So in the end, not as easy.
Getting to the point of this thread:
Garth Brooks what a cluster f!
Note, I have already done a complete Garth Brooks as mentioned, but I am getting to a "pure" listening experience now.
Ok let us start:
First of all No Christmas NONE. "Cash in" is my rule here.
Original albums only with original track order (so yes I include Chris Gaines..this could be a "cash in" but at least it is different and not seasonal crap). Ok, so that means all bonus tracks have to go because I consider them b-material and not moving forward in career. I also like to think of it like a cash in. This makes his original without that below par Uptown Downtown song messing up the perfection of the first album.
Ok that idea works until say Fresh Horses. The Hope Floats To Make You Feel My Love is a #1 song/single to be sure, but it also makes me think of his "cash in" approach that will lead me to his box set of covers that to me are very rough sailing and needs to be cut. Hmmm...maybe I will cut this song because of the whole cover tunes Metallica rule above. Of course the whole "Shameless" thing on Ropin' the Wind is nagging at me.
So Moving on Sevens. Ok In Another's Eyes I find goofy anyway and technically it falls under another album by Trisha Yearwood and messes up the chrono...yup that can go too.
Scare Crow. Well the Frequency song was written by him and came out months earlier so that goes to the top of the playlist before the album. Beer Run...same deal as before with Another's Eyes (though I like quite a bit better). Again this goes under "cash in" because Garth no doubt did a guest appearance to get distribution rights later. It being a cover makes it equally easy to cut from the album. Will see how this plays out. Squeeze Me In? This is a weird one. It is a cover, but it was never released before. I admit I hate the duet crap, but now am I just butchering the album completely if I cut it??? Then we come back to the fact that they did several duets and this is probably the most "cash in" of them all. If the others are cut I am thinking this has to be cut too. It certainly will be more pure Garth Brooks for sure. But then there is the Shameless thing I mentioned before?
Will come back to that. The Lost Sessions ...what do you do with this? Should it be excised because it is mostly if not all covers?? Only keep the stuff Garth wrote? So if I keep it because of the Coda rule that I used with Led Zeppelin above what about the bonus of the bonus released later in the expanded edition??? WOW
HELP!!
Man Against the Machine...at least this is normal.
Gunslinger...Sugar Cane guess I cut that.
My rules are getting weird. I don't even know what to do, I have even started on Elvis yet....
Oh man, and what about KISS. If I cut the covers there, then I am really screwing myself. Ok back to covers being left in, but what about that 5 disc set of covers is a ton of Garth that I could do without!
It isn't so much a playlist, but a representation of what Garth Brooks was in a distilled approach. In the case of say the Beatles, again, it is pretty darn easy with only the Christmas albums needing a little fudging (I take that Christmas edited single as the only way to hear it all...that and the Lennon voice over thing was also part of that bunch because of actually being recorded on the same session...I forgot my reasoning on the chrono, but it works!).
What sucks in the case of Garth Brooks, is the first 6 albums have virtually zero problems!
So let me try again. For the Cash in rule
No Trisha Yearwood
No bonus tracks
No guest appearances
Cover tunes are ok if they are lead off Garth Singles (which should be placed in proper chrono order) and aren't entire collections like the recent covers box set...still struggling though.
But there sits the Lost recordings. It really is a good album..and then the fact that the add ons are essentially rejects of a b-side collection?? Maybe I should cut it all too.
genesim said:
I am starting what I call a "pure" series. While I went with complete before, it just makes for a sucky long term listening.Let me give an example. Led Zeppelin easy...all albums, with B-side Hey Hey What Can I Do and ending with Baby Come on Home and Travelling Riverside Blues because they were released as singles and had new recording aspects so I consider them "new" singles.
I don't worry about chronological too much because like with Coda, there are newer aspects in the production and it sits really well as an album. However I modified in one way. NO and I say again, NO repeats of songs. I Can't Quite You Baby had to go and the original is superior to me anyway.
SO in the end DONE. Black Sabbath (Ozzy Only with bonus tracks and last album), Van Halen (bonus tracks with last album)..these are really easy as well and I call them pure.
Metallica, a little more tricky. With the release of ...And Justice for All remastered I wanted to go back to the well and fix a few things. No cover tunes and no guest appearances (and yes I consider the whole LuLu album exactly that!). So what that leaves me is main albums with the single of No Leaf Clover (since it is originally written by them) and cutting out all tribute stuff. Just pure Metallica with the only exception being the bonus stuff from Death Magnetic which I call a new kind of E.P. that moves their career forward...
So yeah...this is an exception, because it normally falls under b-sides but at least it is produced new material. Besides if you cut it, wouldn't you have to technically cut Re-Load? HELL NO! Oh yeah and I included I Disappear from the Mission Impossible soundtrack since they wrote it.
So in the end, not as easy.
Getting to the point of this thread:
Garth Brooks what a cluster f!
Note, I have already done a complete Garth Brooks as mentioned, but I am getting to a "pure" listening experience now.
Ok let us start:
First of all No Christmas NONE. "Cash in" is my rule here.
Original albums only with original track order (so yes I include Chris Gaines..this could be a "cash in" but at least it is different and not seasonal crap). Ok, so that means all bonus tracks have to go because I consider them b-material and not moving forward in career. I also like to think of it like a cash in. This makes his original without that below par Uptown Downtown song messing up the perfection of the first album.
Ok that idea works until say Fresh Horses. The Hope Floats To Make You Feel My Love is a #1 song/single to be sure, but it also makes me think of his "cash in" approach that will lead me to his box set of covers that to me are very rough sailing and needs to be cut. Hmmm...maybe I will cut this song because of the whole cover tunes Metallica rule above. Of course the whole "Shameless" thing on Ropin' the Wind is nagging at me.
So Moving on Sevens. Ok In Another's Eyes I find goofy anyway and technically it falls under another album by Trisha Yearwood and messes up the chrono...yup that can go too.
Scare Crow. Well the Frequency song was written by him and came out months earlier so that goes to the top of the playlist before the album. Beer Run...same deal as before with Another's Eyes (though I like quite a bit better). Again this goes under "cash in" because Garth no doubt did a guest appearance to get distribution rights later. It being a cover makes it equally easy to cut from the album. Will see how this plays out. Squeeze Me In? This is a weird one. It is a cover, but it was never released before. I admit I hate the duet crap, but now am I just butchering the album completely if I cut it??? Then we come back to the fact that they did several duets and this is probably the most "cash in" of them all. If the others are cut I am thinking this has to be cut too. It certainly will be more pure Garth Brooks for sure. But then there is the Shameless thing I mentioned before?
Will come back to that. The Lost Sessions ...what do you do with this? Should it be excised because it is mostly if not all covers?? Only keep the stuff Garth wrote? So if I keep it because of the Coda rule that I used with Led Zeppelin above what about the bonus of the bonus released later in the expanded edition??? WOW
HELP!!
Man Against the Machine...at least this is normal.
Gunslinger...Sugar Cane guess I cut that.
My rules are getting weird. I don't even know what to do, I have even started on Elvis yet....
Oh man, and what about KISS. If I cut the covers there, then I am really screwing myself. Ok back to covers being left in, but what about that 5 disc set of covers is a ton of Garth that I could do without!
genesim said:
Sorta. In the case of Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath so easy. I admit as time goes on the "cash in's" are so much more prevalent. But in those two cases, I think it is pretty cut and dry.It isn't so much a playlist, but a representation of what Garth Brooks was in a distilled approach. In the case of say the Beatles, again, it is pretty darn easy with only the Christmas albums needing a little fudging (I take that Christmas edited single as the only way to hear it all...that and the Lennon voice over thing was also part of that bunch because of actually being recorded on the same session...I forgot my reasoning on the chrono, but it works!).
What sucks in the case of Garth Brooks, is the first 6 albums have virtually zero problems!
genesim said:
I got another idea. Instead of the drop covers rule, how about the drop Trisha Yearwood LEAD rule. This seems to work well for John Lennon and allows one to keep say Happy Xmas. :laugh:So let me try again. For the Cash in rule
No Trisha Yearwood
No bonus tracks
No guest appearances
Cover tunes are ok if they are lead off Garth Singles (which should be placed in proper chrono order) and aren't entire collections like the recent covers box set...still struggling though.
But there sits the Lost recordings. It really is a good album..and then the fact that the add ons are essentially rejects of a b-side collection?? Maybe I should cut it all too.