Hitler would have been in a rap band
Mar 22, 2019 17:24:10 GMT
Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Mar 22, 2019 17:24:10 GMT
The WHO - New Album and Tour Moving On!
"we are 2/3rds of the way done..I've got songs about homelessness, the fishing industry, about how men might have to change in the future after the metoo thing...maybe room for a few guests, a female vocalist or a rapper...we shall see."
also: Pino will not be on the tour. Jon Button on bass. Roger very happy he will be playing like Entwistle.
I can (now) kind of see where Pete was going with it as rap had started to inch it's filthy, seedy, gun-toting way in to mainstream music and Pete thought he might be able to use it as a counterpoint in his solo work in much the same way as he lent his voice to Who songs over the years.
Frankly, though, the cross-over absolutely doesn't work and as John so eloquently said "I can't stand rap....people who can't sing do rap....you can sing rebellion as well as talk it....Hitler would have been in a rap band."
I love The Who, but hip-hop as an art form has contributed far, FAR more exciting, hard-rocking, thrilling, dangerous, truth-telling, cathartic, rabble-rousing work to the public sphere than Mr. Townshend and Daltrey or any of their contemporaries have for decades. It's undeniable. "Filthy, seedy, gun-toting" is far from anything approaching a fair appraisal for thirty-plus years of music, dance, visual art, culture...
I miss the Ox dearly, but that “Hitler would have been in a rap band” quote is the absolute stupidest thing he ever said to a journalist, without question. Probably the most out-of-touch “get off my lawn” statement from any of the classic rock stars who aren’t Ted Nugent.
You may like rap and be more tolerant: great; pleased for you. I detest it.
If "young people" (or old, or the dead for that matter) like it, great, good on 'em. But keep it as far away from my ears as possible. Please.
zeppo1 said:
interesting bits from Pete:"we are 2/3rds of the way done..I've got songs about homelessness, the fishing industry, about how men might have to change in the future after the metoo thing...maybe room for a few guests, a female vocalist or a rapper...we shall see."
also: Pino will not be on the tour. Jon Button on bass. Roger very happy he will be playing like Entwistle.
slipkid said:
A "rapper"? Holy Christ here we go again. Pete had a rapper on stage with him at the Shepherd's Bush Empire show I was at in the late '90's. I somehow managed to erase all sounds of what that guy was doing, just godawful in every way. Please no more rappers Pete.Benn Kempster said:
I was at the show and all of us in the front row, literally, looked across at each other when Hame came on as if to say "What the holy fu(k is this all about?"I can (now) kind of see where Pete was going with it as rap had started to inch it's filthy, seedy, gun-toting way in to mainstream music and Pete thought he might be able to use it as a counterpoint in his solo work in much the same way as he lent his voice to Who songs over the years.
Frankly, though, the cross-over absolutely doesn't work and as John so eloquently said "I can't stand rap....people who can't sing do rap....you can sing rebellion as well as talk it....Hitler would have been in a rap band."
Jet Age Eric said:
I am NOT a fan of rap or hip hop (or the performance in question), but you are really betraying your ignorance here. Or, at best, you're painting cavalierly with a WAY too-broad brush. -EBenn Kempster said:
I'm not. Really.aphexj said:
^ Troll, v. Deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive contentI love The Who, but hip-hop as an art form has contributed far, FAR more exciting, hard-rocking, thrilling, dangerous, truth-telling, cathartic, rabble-rousing work to the public sphere than Mr. Townshend and Daltrey or any of their contemporaries have for decades. It's undeniable. "Filthy, seedy, gun-toting" is far from anything approaching a fair appraisal for thirty-plus years of music, dance, visual art, culture...
overdrivethree said:
Yup x 1000.I miss the Ox dearly, but that “Hitler would have been in a rap band” quote is the absolute stupidest thing he ever said to a journalist, without question. Probably the most out-of-touch “get off my lawn” statement from any of the classic rock stars who aren’t Ted Nugent.
Benn Kempster said:
Not trolling at all. There was no attempt to inflame or be offensive at all in any way. I merely stated my opinion of it and how I view it's non-contribution to anything other than encouraging people to wear jeans 14 size too big for them and baseball caps the wrong way 'round. You may see that as inflammatory and that's your opinion which you're entitled to.You may like rap and be more tolerant: great; pleased for you. I detest it.
overdrivethree said:
Considering his band initially rose to fame because they broke expensive stuff and got thrown out of hotels for blowing up toilets with cherry bombs, Entwistle making such a brash declaration about younger artists doing something he doesn’t understand - kind of a silly look, yeah?Benn Kempster said:
Not at all; where did he refer to their ages? I would imagine that unintelligible lyrics about "smacking up bitches" on top of music samples from other artists would be just as execrable whether the delivery is from a 20-year-old or an 80-year-old.........bux said:
Dude, seriously? This isn't merely ignorant of history, it's terribly ironic. Recall how rock 'n' roll in its early days was derided as socially damaging lowbrow slop by an establishment that was too up its own rear end to know any better, that couldn't appreciate its value as a genre for young people who desperately needed something to speak to them and to call their own. And whether they liked it or not, rock 'n' roll eventually went on to create music of towering cultural importance. No one's saying you have to like the music. But to dismiss it out of hand, and without any good faith effort to understand it, is both absurd and mean-spirited.Benn Kempster said:
It's not; it's a decision reflecting free choice and one that I'm entirely happy with. Why on EARTH would I try to understand (ahem!) music - that I invest my none-too plentiful leisure time and money in - when I don't like anything I've heard casually? That would just be wasteful of the time, effort and cash.If "young people" (or old, or the dead for that matter) like it, great, good on 'em. But keep it as far away from my ears as possible. Please.