Spotify Is An Enemy of Sustainable Arts
Apr 27, 2019 14:57:18 GMT
Post by Mediocrates on Apr 27, 2019 14:57:18 GMT
If you enjoy dumpster fires, jump in here:
Things get heated when someone inevitably pastes that Brian Eno quote
“I think records were just a little bubble through time and those who made a living from them for a while were lucky. There is no reason why anyone should have made so much money from selling records except that everything was right for this period of time. I always knew it would run out sooner or later. It couldn't last, and now it's running out. I don't particularly care that it is and like the way things are going. The record age was just a blip. It was a bit like if you had a source of whale blubber in the 1840s and it could be used as fuel. Before gas came along, if you traded in whale blubber, you were the richest man on Earth. Then gas came along and you'd be stuck with your whale blubber. Sorry mate – history's moving along. Recorded music equals whale blubber. Eventually, something else will replace it.”
jay.dee:
Perhaps Brian should return the undeserved money he made. Or even forced to do that; after all the laws protecting the private property of parvenus have been a blip on the human history's radar.
robcar:
If he’s saying, as he appears to be, that recorded music has no utility or value, why do a few billion people listen to it?
Seems a bit like an old guy wanting to sound more perceptive than the rest of his peers.
Seems a bit like an old guy wanting to sound more perceptive than the rest of his peers.
robcar:
If I had kids I would refuse to allow them to play video games. Recorded music is meant to be listened to without any other sensory input. It’s for the ears, not the eyes.
Plus, kids need to play outside on their own, not sit indoors in front of a TV screen.
Plus, kids need to play outside on their own, not sit indoors in front of a TV screen.
robcar:
I refuse to adapt and will have no reason to ever regret that decision.
INSW:
Okay.
HfxBob:
That's easy to say when you don't have kids.
robcar:
True, but I really don't think I'd compromise on this if I did. My wife feels exactly the same way. We are both big believers in the reality of nature deficit disorder and would want our kids to be outside most of the time (weather permitting) doing unstructured playing, not scheduled activities. When at home, I'd be happy for them to spend most of their free time listening to or learning to play music or reading books. Very limited TV watching or online time and no smart phones until probably 16-17, if then.
ShockControl:
Don't allow them to watch films, either. Those often contain music. Film music is primarily what I listen to, and I enjoy films as well. I'm glad I'm not your kid.
robcar:
I'd let them watch films, but mostly the Oscar nominated and art type films. Not most of the comic book stuff.
Helping them to discern quality from pablum is part of a good parent's job as I see it. I don't have to like what they like by any means, but as long as I've given them the intellectual ability to evaluate it, I'd be satisfied.
Helping them to discern quality from pablum is part of a good parent's job as I see it. I don't have to like what they like by any means, but as long as I've given them the intellectual ability to evaluate it, I'd be satisfied.
Ned Bode:
People without kids are the best experts on raising kids.
See: Dunning-Kruger Effect
See: Dunning-Kruger Effect
robcar:
I'd say we are, actually. Not even kidding. We see how terribly most American parents are raising their kids today and it is quite easy to point out the problems. When you're in the thick of it, you don't see these things as clearly.
INSW:
"Dad, everyone I know talks about this YouTube thing and these games you can play on a screen. I feel sort of alone and left out and when I ask questions the other kids make fun of me and call me names. Can I see what they're all talking about?"
"No, go outside and unstructuraly gather sticks and imagine the clouds have names. If you get bored you may choose a jazz or classical lp from my curated collection to engage your mind."
"No, go outside and unstructuraly gather sticks and imagine the clouds have names. If you get bored you may choose a jazz or classical lp from my curated collection to engage your mind."
robcar:
Pretty much. Raising your children to ignore the opinions of their peers is also a part of good parenting.
Daydreaming about clouds is time far better spent. I still do it when I have the chance today. Getting kids out of task-oriented thinking and into dreaming and free association is very very important.
Daydreaming about clouds is time far better spent. I still do it when I have the chance today. Getting kids out of task-oriented thinking and into dreaming and free association is very very important.
ShockControl:
Sounds like a great approach - if you want your kids to hate Oscar-nominated and art-type films, and love comic book stuff.
robcar:
Didn't work that way for me.
Ned Bode:
"Sir, this is a Wendy's."
