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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 2:29:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 2:44:47 GMT
STeVE is concerned:
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Post by blahdiofile on Jun 15, 2019 5:43:06 GMT
Why stop with the thread? Shut The whole forum down
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Post by Flat Transfer on Jun 15, 2019 10:29:54 GMT
Looking for "Sugar Sugar" on the list. It won't be. Ron Dante owns the Archies tapes, and they have never been part of any company that is under the Universal Music umbrella. Hey, it was only wishful thinking
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Post by Brick Wall on Jun 15, 2019 16:20:21 GMT
Hooofman This from the über asshole nit-picker who will not hesitate for a second to turn on his own fucking members when it suits him and regularly trashes other real mastering engineers in his own little toilet bowl. What a sad, pathetic dickhead.
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Post by whorediophile on Jun 17, 2019 0:30:25 GMT
A friend just forwarded me an article from Andy Zax from 2014 that talks about the fire but also talks about a certain mastering engineer! So the article is about the loss of master tapes and industry indifference. www.andyzax.com/goodbyeThis is the interesting part: "You also don’t need to worry about losing tapes if you just let people steal them. The most notorious example of this is a legendary sociopath who worked for a big label and spent years pillaging its vault and stealing tapes. He stole multitrack session reels, hit singles, famous albums. Even, in some cases, entire artists’ catalogues. If I told you some of the things that this guy either had in his possession when he was finally caught or the things that were never recovered that he made off with and sold to private collectors, I guarantee that at least five people in this room would go into respiratory failure. The thing that got him caught was also the thing that kept him out of jail. In addition to tapes, he was stealing old artist contracts and selling them for big bucks. The label discovered the sales, and then the missing tapes, but if the guy had been arrested and charged, the company would have been inundated with artists or their estates trying to renegotiate their agreements from scratch because they knew the label no longer had paperwork to prove or enforce whatever contractual agreements had been in place. Dealing with this would have cost the company hundreds of millions of dollars--and probably the loss of some of their most valuable properties--so they made the decision to sweep everything discreetly under the rug. The guy was never arrested and continues to work in the music business to this day. Everyone loves a happy ending." I advised my friend that as of 2019 this guy isn't working anymore! Posting that link at SHite.TV would be a hell of a last post, I think!
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Post by bradman on Jun 17, 2019 1:45:02 GMT
That link is incendiary and informative. Must reading for any music fan.
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Post by Aural Relations on Jun 17, 2019 8:27:41 GMT
I want this to be true, but would those contracts not be held in duplicate by the label's lawyers? And would one person really have the means of accessing tapes held in storage and original documents held by the legal department?
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Post by Flat Transfer on Jun 17, 2019 15:29:47 GMT
A friend just forwarded me an article from Andy Zax from 2014 that talks about the fire but also talks about a certain mastering engineer! So the article is about the loss of master tapes and industry indifference. www.andyzax.com/goodbyeThis is the interesting part: "You also don’t need to worry about losing tapes if you just let people steal them. The most notorious example of this is a legendary sociopath who worked for a big label and spent years pillaging its vault and stealing tapes. He stole multitrack session reels, hit singles, famous albums. Even, in some cases, entire artists’ catalogues. If I told you some of the things that this guy either had in his possession when he was finally caught or the things that were never recovered that he made off with and sold to private collectors, I guarantee that at least five people in this room would go into respiratory failure. The thing that got him caught was also the thing that kept him out of jail. In addition to tapes, he was stealing old artist contracts and selling them for big bucks. The label discovered the sales, and then the missing tapes, but if the guy had been arrested and charged, the company would have been inundated with artists or their estates trying to renegotiate their agreements from scratch because they knew the label no longer had paperwork to prove or enforce whatever contractual agreements had been in place. Dealing with this would have cost the company hundreds of millions of dollars--and probably the loss of some of their most valuable properties--so they made the decision to sweep everything discreetly under the rug. The guy was never arrested and continues to work in the music business to this day. Everyone loves a happy ending." I advised my friend that as of 2019 this guy isn't working anymore! Posting that link at SHite.TV would be a hell of a last post, I think!
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Post by Flat Transfer on Jun 17, 2019 15:40:06 GMT
I want this to be true, but would those contracts not be held in duplicate by the label's lawyers? And would one person really have the means of accessing tapes held in storage and original documents held by the legal department?
Here are his MCA job functions: 1977-1982 +++ MCA Records/Universal Studios / Universal City, CA Copyright Administrator Music publishing clearance and matters related to song rights and history.
This here ^ And then he got promoted to:
1982-1986 +++ MCA Records/Universal Studios / Universal City, CA Catalog Development Manager
Funny enough, this promotion was indirectly due to some of his vault finds, which he really had no business being at in the first place. It makes perfect sense that the reselling of artist contracts as rock 'n' roll memorabilia, prevented Irving Azoff from taking him to the dry cleaners, although I'm pretty sure Hoofman hadn't exactly planned it that way.
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Post by banana on Jun 17, 2019 16:00:54 GMT
Wow. A fantastic revelation. It would be good to put it as a permanent "sticky" thread right at the top of this forum, so that it doesn't get lost.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Jun 17, 2019 17:38:40 GMT
I wonder if Hoofy’s keen to shut down that thread because it could lead to increased exposure for Andy Zax, and subsequently a greater awareness of his light-fingered past? It’s only a matter of time before some well-meaning and clueless SHiTE starts an ‘Andy Zax - he’s a great guy!’ thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 21:54:07 GMT
I was trolling in Hoofyville yesterday reading this thread and something caught my attention that I didn’t give much thought to at the time. Many of the people are mourning the fact that masters were lost and now any new products may use fake masters, needledrops, etc. that would be fake creations. Someone mentioned stereo masters existed but only released in mono we would only get fake stereo. The same group mourning fake stereo who just a few weeks ago praised to the sun and beyond when that label was creating fake stereo masters after complaining about fake digital stereo. Talk about a group of complete utter flip floppy assholes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 22:06:22 GMT
You're right, and I suppose that means more hand wringing about vinyl sourced from digital masters too.
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Post by whorediophile on Jun 18, 2019 0:18:39 GMT
I wonder if Hoofy’s keen to shut down that thread because it could lead to increased exposure for Andy Zax, and subsequently a greater awareness of his light-fingered past? It’s only a matter of time before some well-meaning and clueless SHiTE starts an ‘Andy Zax - he’s a great guy!’ thread. Heh, too late for that. I searched and found more than one SHiTe thread celebrating Zax's work - remasters. There's also a current thread about his latest project, which is a reissue/remix of the original Woodstock recordings. If you pay close attention to who is answering questions in that thread...
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