Felonious Spunk
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Post by Felonious Spunk on Jun 5, 2020 15:47:59 GMT
From Wikipedia: "Pretenders was also reissued in 2009 by Audio Fooldelity as a limited-edition audiowank gold CD, using the original master tapes. However, this remaster suffered from unauthorized, heavy limiting supposedly applied after office cleaner Steve Hoffman's digital master was created and approved for CD manufacturing. The song "The Phone Call" is missing some of the telephone effects on this release because the effects were "flown in" after the master was completed for the song and, as a result, weren't on the original master tape.There were no bonus tracks included." I wonder how many SHites had heard the term "flown in" before this cockup? Someone asked elsewhere about the "flown in" obsession, well I think it starts here.
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Post by aaa-appreciator on Jun 5, 2020 18:39:50 GMT
“Office cleaner Steve Hoffman” just made me laugh out loud. Very loudly. What an absolute douche he is.
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Jun 5, 2020 19:34:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 19:38:53 GMT
STeVe remembering good times. Didn’t know if I needed to poat this here, in another STeVe topic or in the DeVoe thread.
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Post by ledzeppelin2rl on Jun 5, 2020 20:03:36 GMT
From Wikipedia: "Pretenders was also reissued in 2009 by Audio Fooldelity as a limited-edition audiowank gold CD, using the original master tapes. However, this remaster suffered from unauthorized, heavy limiting supposedly applied after office cleaner Steve Hoffman's digital master was created and approved for CD manufacturing. The song "The Phone Call" is missing some of the telephone effects on this release because the effects were "flown in" after the master was completed for the song and, as a result, weren't on the original master tape.There were no bonus tracks included." The Rhino remastered deluxe edition and the MFSL remaster had no problem finding the telephone effects. Shows again that Audio Fidelity was a low level hack label. No excuse for a so called "audiophile" reissue label to be this incompetent.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Jun 5, 2020 21:54:43 GMT
From Wikipedia: "Pretenders was also reissued in 2009 by Audio Fooldelity as a limited-edition audiowank gold CD, using the original master tapes. However, this remaster suffered from unauthorized, heavy limiting supposedly applied after office cleaner Steve Hoffman's digital master was created and approved for CD manufacturing. The song "The Phone Call" is missing some of the telephone effects on this release because the effects were "flown in" after the master was completed for the song and, as a result, weren't on the original master tape.There were no bonus tracks included." I wonder how many SHites had heard the term "flown in" before this cockup? Someone asked elsewhere about the "flown in" obsession, well I think it starts here. It comes from Anthology 1
They really invented everything.
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Post by Chicken in Black on Jun 5, 2020 22:05:09 GMT
From Wikipedia: "Pretenders was also reissued in 2009 by Audio Fooldelity as a limited-edition audiowank gold CD, using the original master tapes. However, this remaster suffered from unauthorized, heavy limiting supposedly applied after office cleaner Steve Hoffman's digital master was created and approved for CD manufacturing. The song "The Phone Call" is missing some of the telephone effects on this release because the effects were "flown in" after the master was completed for the song and, as a result, weren't on the original master tape.There were no bonus tracks included." The Rhino remastered deluxe edition and the MFSL remaster had no problem finding the telephone effects. Shows again that Audio Fidelity was a low level hack label. No excuse for a so called "audiophile" reissue label to be this incompetent. MoFi’s Rob LoVerde actually took the time to tear Steve a new one to explain the particularities of this precise title. www.facebook.com/163182960445231/posts/the-truth-about-the-pretenders-first-album-master-tapeshello-everyonei-hope-this/719331484830373/
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Jun 6, 2020 1:50:27 GMT
The contrast in style between Rob LoVerde and Steve Hoffman is staggering.
Mr. LoVerde presents the facts in a straightforward way. He’s clear, concise, and free of hyperbole.
Hoffman, on the other hand, is the master of fact-free bullshit – spread around in thick dollops that would be embarrassing for anyone this side of Donald Trump.
(It’s interesting (and sickening) how both Hoffman and Trump are narcissistic assholes, yet have vast groups of minions who worship them like deities. I can’t quite wrap my head around that.)
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Post by UDII on Jun 6, 2020 3:12:17 GMT
That SH protege really knows what he is talking about.
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Post by hoofyflipflops on Jun 6, 2020 13:41:25 GMT
So, it wasn't "flown in" at all. Huffy just used the wrong tape. Again.
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Post by Brick Wall on Jun 6, 2020 15:40:17 GMT
STeVe remembering good times. Didn’t know if I needed to poat this here, in another STeVe topic or in the DeVoe thread. Yo, Riverside Records. You may want to check the contents of the box that was returned to you after the STEVE HOFFMAN remastering session. Just sayin'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 21:04:19 GMT
I'd love someone to 'fly in' some white noise over the beatles master tapes to shut them fuckers up
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Jun 6, 2020 21:11:21 GMT
This is priceless and highly entertaining information. I don’t give a shit about The Pretenders, but would love to hear the hoops that Der Tonmeister tried to jump through to explain why he fucked up so badly? Is there a thread like the one where Jamie Tate exposes his Doors bullshittery?
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Post by Norman ‘Whiplash’ Mailer on Jun 6, 2020 21:54:11 GMT
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Post by Chicken in Black on Jun 6, 2020 22:03:04 GMT
On the previous version of this board, we followed the events as they happened in "real time", similar to the Heartbeat City fiasco. Steve did a Trump by blaming almost everybody on the production chain (but him), until he realized he couldn't give any satisfying explanation for the situation, and dropped the "FUBAR" comment, hinting that he didn't know how the limiting had been applied after he had mastered the whole thing.
Jamie Tate posted a review on Amazon about a Simon and Garfunkel AF remaster around 2010. At this point, Sony had stopped using the original stereo masters, as they were worn out, and had switched to remixes from the multitrack masters, which were done by Vic Anesini with the help of Roy Halee for the remasters they released around 2000. Then, a few years later, Steve Hoffman was able to go back to the original stereo mix, bragging that he had found the stereo masters to be in much better shape than claimed. Tate had a hunch that he hadn't, and checked for evidence the time codes for each track. They were the exact same length as the original 80s CD. So, the CD wasn't from a new transfer (there would have been some fluctuation) but was the original CD release re-EQ'ed, or, at best, some DAT tape from this transfer. Of course, many SHites assumed that it was still a new transfer from the "original master tapes" that precisely played at the very exact speed as in the eighties, and Tate was forced to retract his claim, as Marsha threatened him with legal action. It was probably an empty threat, as AF was, even at this point, a much smaller operation than people assumed and their "lawyers" would have been reachable as the same PO Box as everybody else, but it was still a risk.
Still, Tate's claims opened a few eyes. Steve had sold for years during forum fundraisers a few CD-R copies of some "unreleased remasters" of his, cancelled DCC projects. These had circulated after they had been sold, and they were naturally in sync with the old CD versions.
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