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Post by krabapple on Oct 4, 2019 22:41:21 GMT
Applebaum's book, which argues *that very thing*, is teeming with citations. Go look them up, and go fuck yourself.
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Post by aggressivebeta on Oct 7, 2019 14:45:50 GMT
Burden of proof is on you. Look them up yourself to prove you're not full of shit.
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Post by bradman on Oct 7, 2019 15:49:00 GMT
If Friedman advocated for Shareholders above all else, then yeah his ideas are ruinous.
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Post by krabapple on Oct 7, 2019 17:52:14 GMT
I point to a new book by a respected economic journalist, whose very subject is how giving way too much credence to free-market/Chicago School economic philosophy* fucked up our country...a book with ~100 pages of small-print end notes... but libertarian internet warrior remains unfulfilled. (*Including that of Ayn Rand fanboy Alan Greenspan, who brought her and her cuck to his White House photo-op when he was appointed head economic adviser to the ever-clueless Gerald Ford. This pic's in the book, too.)
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Post by krabapple on Oct 7, 2019 17:56:01 GMT
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Post by aggressivebeta on Oct 7, 2019 18:39:31 GMT
I point to a new book by a respected economic journalist, whose very subject is how giving way too much credence to free-market/Chicago School economic philosophy* fucked up our country...a book with ~100 pages of small-print end notes... but libertarian internet warrior remains unfulfilled. It's not my job to go wasting time looking up something to support your argument that probably doesn't even exist in the first place. The burden of proof is on you, so learn how to properly cite your claims. This is stuff even 6th graders know how to do, you moron Oh, he certainly, famously, did. The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits Two academic economist/scholars who, even though they 'admire Friedman have no desire to prove him wrong', point out where he was....wrong. review.chicagobooth.edu/economics/2017/article/it-s-time-rethink-milton-friedman-s-shareholder-value-argument So, after reading through those, I don't see anywhere in there that he is advocating that the government should prioritize shareholder profits above all else. In fact, your own source, in the very first paragraph, says that Friedman argued that "the basic rules of society, both those embodied in law and those embodied in ethical custom" should be prioritized over shareholder profits. Do you even read the shit you post?
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Post by essayceedee on Oct 7, 2019 19:49:36 GMT
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Post by krabapple on Oct 7, 2019 21:30:09 GMT
I point to a new book by a respected economic journalist, whose very subject is how giving way too much credence to free-market/Chicago School economic philosophy* fucked up our country...a book with ~100 pages of small-print end notes... but libertarian internet warrior remains unfulfilled. It's not my job to go wasting time looking up something to support your argument that probably doesn't even exist in the first place. The burden of proof is on you, so learn how to properly cite your claims. This is stuff even 6th graders know how to do, you moron Oh, he certainly, famously, did. The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits Two academic economist/scholars who, even though they 'admire Friedman have no desire to prove him wrong', point out where he was....wrong. review.chicagobooth.edu/economics/2017/article/it-s-time-rethink-milton-friedman-s-shareholder-value-argument So, after reading through those, I don't see anywhere in there that he is advocating that the government should prioritize shareholder profits above all else. In fact, your own source, in the very first paragraph, says that Friedman argued that "the basic rules of society, both those embodied in law and those embodied in ethical custom" should be prioritized over shareholder profits. Boldfacing your lame attempt to change the topic. Yes. I'm reading Applebaum's book now, as a matter of fact. Do you ever question the rah rah libertarian horseshit you believe?
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Post by aggressivebeta on Oct 7, 2019 23:26:58 GMT
Boldfacing your lame attempt to change the topic. Says the guy who brought up Ayn Rand and Alan Greenspan out of the blue. Also, it's not a topic change. Let me walk you through it since your mental capacity has diminished in your old age 1. "Shareholder profits must be prioritized above all else" 2. "Above all else" means that shareholder profits must be prioritized above individual liberty 3. The only way that shareholder profits can be prioritized over individual liberty is if the government steps in to violate those liberties on behalf of shareholders, or fails to perform its constitutional duty of protecting individual liberty from corporate aggression. (For example, when Barack Obama refused to criminally prosecute BP shareholders that polluted the Gulf and destroyed private property. Did you vote for him?) 4. Friedman did not advocate for that. That's bullshit left-wing propaganda and your own source contradicts you.
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Post by bradman on Oct 7, 2019 23:33:28 GMT
"all else" meaning ahead of customers and workers, nothing to do with government or rights.
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Post by aggressivebeta on Oct 7, 2019 23:35:25 GMT
Individuals and consumers are the same thing. Any business that puts profit ahead of their consumers will fail unless the govt subverts the market by propping them up at the expense of consumers (individual liberty) and/or their competitors.
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Post by krabapple on Oct 9, 2019 18:02:46 GMT
Let us also not forget that President Douchenozzle gave Arthur Laffer, he of the fraudulent, discredited 'Laffer Curve', a Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2019, for "public service and contributions to economic policy that have helped spur prosperity for our Nation".
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Post by Sanjay Gupton on Oct 10, 2019 13:33:52 GMT
Why are American Blacks so black?
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Post by Brick Wall on Oct 10, 2019 15:29:54 GMT
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