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Post by Potsie Hoofman on Dec 5, 2019 0:19:24 GMT
I'm sure I'll get harassed for admitting this here, but I love VH. Doesn't matter who is singing. And I have my reasons. But it just stands to reason that as soon someone under the age of 30 doesn't know them, the sky is falling. Just imagine the horror if she didn't know the Beatles! I wish my life was so pedantic that I got all worked up over that. Dude, I saw them with each lead singer. Huge fan. But I'm not about to dump on a kid for not knowing who they are. These are the same assholes who post "Who is Drake?". Nor am I. I mean, even with their nearly 20 year run of being a relevant band, the last time they truly were relevant in mainstream, popular culture was 1996 at BEST. A presence on CHR radio? Probably 1988 or so. By 2004, they were the band mom & dad went to see. A nostalgia act. The lastest abortion, er...album with Roth was a curiosity. So that's, what...nearly a decade before her birth? "At any rate" (STeVE™), they also forget not EVERYONE is as into music as they are. I know them and love them, and that's enough for me. But obviously, not good enough for them.
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Post by mudflapslim on Dec 5, 2019 0:27:43 GMT
I’ll bet the average SHite couldn’t even identify Lester Young let alone Coleman Hawkins, Johnny Hodges, Ben Webster, etc. My instinct is to go off on them for being so ignorant about music. I’m controlling myself but the lack of curiosity is what disturbs me. Too ethnic.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Dec 5, 2019 2:04:17 GMT
Now I'm curious if my sister knows who Van Halen are. I certainly never showed them to her. Just an update: she didn't know who Van Halen were.
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Post by Sanjay Gupton on Dec 5, 2019 3:40:14 GMT
First there was Grand Funk. Then there was Van Halen. Then there was Guns N Roses. Now there's Greta Van Fleet. The people that grow up with them seem to love them, and the people that didn't not only don't get it, they don't care. 99% of all music should be like that. Every now and then you should hear a Beatles or Stones song or a Zeppelin song. We should hear something like Van Halen on oldies stations once a year.
If you want to hear it more, that's what records are for (or your Spotify account). Imagine liking more than one band.
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Post by Potsie Hoofman on Dec 5, 2019 4:16:14 GMT
This is turning into an actual Hoofy thread really fast, sans the finger pointing and oh-so-thinly veiled moans of "oppressed white man" from the great unwashed.
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Post by elderlyincredulity on Dec 5, 2019 6:41:51 GMT
Now I'm curious if my sister knows who Van Halen are. I certainly never showed them to her. Just an update: she didn't know who Van Halen were. We listen at work at times to a local college radio station that promotes itself with the phrase "We play anything!" Which they do, mostly. The same old dreck with the occasional "Wow, haven't heard that in awhile." thrown in. One night the young female dj came on to id what she had been playing: "And that was Jump by Van Hollen." Ah, we had trouble telling one Dorsey brother from the other, too.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Dec 5, 2019 7:26:05 GMT
Just an update: she didn't know who Van Halen were. We listen at work at times to a local college radio station that promotes itself with the phrase "We play anything!" Which they do, mostly. The same old dreck with the occasional "Wow, haven't heard that in awhile." thrown in. One night the young female dj came on to id what she had been playing: "And that was Jump by Van Hollen." Ah, we had trouble telling one Dorsey brother from the other, too. Next time I talk to her, I need to ask if she knows who Eric Carr was.
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Post by Potsie Hoofman on Dec 5, 2019 11:58:26 GMT
We listen at work at times to a local college radio station that promotes itself with the phrase "We play anything!" Which they do, mostly. The same old dreck with the occasional "Wow, haven't heard that in awhile." thrown in. One night the young female dj came on to id what she had been playing: "And that was Jump by Van Hollen." Ah, we had trouble telling one Dorsey brother from the other, too. Next time I talk to her, I need to ask if she knows who Eric Carr was. If Eric Carr had been the drummer for VH instead of Alex Van Halen, VH would still be known and loved today.
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Post by Holly Diver on Dec 5, 2019 15:36:48 GMT
You Van Halen haters can eat my sack. Are you seriously judging their entire output from one synth-heavy chart topper?
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Dec 5, 2019 17:04:46 GMT
You Van Halen haters can eat my sack. Are you seriously judging their entire output from one synth-heavy chart topper? I personally loathe Runnin' With The Devil. But that aside, I don't hate them. I just don't like them. There's nothing about them that I find remotely reprehensible. You like them? Cool. I don't and consequently I don't give them much thought. I don't have enough energy or interest to be a hater of anything.
I love Cream. Would Billie Eilish know who they are? Does my sister know Cream? I'm thinking probably not (though surely she'd recognize a song or two from commercials and movies.) Does she even know who Eric Clapton is? For all the energies I've spent introducing her to various artists and songs, I usually base it off what she would like. I figured she might like early-mid 2000's stuff, which seems to have found a new audience in her generation, and I was totally right. The funny thing there is that she didn't necessarily like the stuff when I showed it to her. But months or years later she would say "hey, I like Paramore" or "this Killers song is cool" and I'd remind her that when I showed this stuff to her previously she had called it "trash." (Paramore in particular is funny because we saw them play as part of a multi-act show when she was 7 and she didn't enjoy them at all. Now she'd love to go see them but they wrapped up a while ago and probably won't be back for another year still.) She also likes Motown so I can always dig out a song that she isn't getting from whatever youtube recommends. And every so often I just know that she'll appreciate a certain song, like when I sent her Pale Blue Eyes. She listens to Ruby Tuesday by the Stones and a bunch of Beatles and Lennon songs without me pushing any of it on her, although she certainly knows that it's the stuff I'm into. The closest I got was sending her a few Yoko songs that I thought she'd enjoy. And even then, she didn't pay attention to them until she heard Yoko somewhere else and asked me to resend the tracks. She's admitted that I have a good read on her taste but that when I show her something, her instinct is to not like it, and to then "discover" it on her own. Frustrating in the moment for me but ultimately I'm just thrilled that she has music that she connects to and loves and it's an added bonus that it's stuff we can enjoy together. And that includes Billie Eilish. I would have gladly taken her to that concert last year but for the absurd resale prices. It would fucking break my heart to pay 3x face value just to get shitty seats and the kid doesn't care enough to warrant it as a special gift. I bet Paramore tickets don't totally get eaten up by scalpers in minutes. I bet they don't command absurd mark ups. When they fuck are they coming back???
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Post by hoofyflipflops on Dec 18, 2019 4:11:06 GMT
Top Jimmy kicks ass.
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daved
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Post by daved on Dec 18, 2019 9:30:30 GMT
Too long, didn’t read.
Too short, don’t give a fuck.
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Post by GeddyLeePierce on Dec 18, 2019 16:13:49 GMT
Van Halen > Cream
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Post by Sanjay Gupton on Dec 18, 2019 16:24:01 GMT
Bud Light > Van Halen > Cream
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Post by GeddyLeePierce on Dec 18, 2019 18:21:29 GMT
^^^
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