Post by unemployed bellend on Sept 23, 2020 0:57:20 GMT
JackS asks the real question
Aren't we all people of color ?
Yeah, that choice has nothing at all to do with politics... I guess the Beatles need to be canceled, what with them being four straight White men. Plus don't they come from a country that colonized others?
What's Going On is great, but a few of the songs are filler. It's about 2-3 songs short of being perfect; thus it's not the greatest album of all time.
jboersma (responding to the dudley077 quote above)
nothing odd about it these days. all mainstream publications seem to feel Critical Race Theory is critical to their business.
“Critical Race Theory” links to an article on a website for a “libertarian” “think tank”
We got the Beatles with "the white album", Metallica with "the black album" and Joni Mitchell with "Blue".
I think it's great that the blue people got a mention.
Did they get input from Asian, Native Americans, Indians, Arabs, or Aboriginals? Or is only asking black Americans for their musical opinion diverse enough?
But that wasn't the point I was trying to make. The original post I replied to said they weren't asking only old white men for their opinions anymore and that they were diversifying their polling. And it's obvious from the rankings on the list they met their diversity quota for their polling by pretty much getting only black opinions for the list. I highly doubt if they had asked a bunch of Asians and Arabs and Indians that they'd place "What's Going On" as #1.
Edit: platypus is delusional
I'd say "OK Computer" is more relevant and appeals to a wider demographic.
I don't see a lot of diversity beyond only black and white people voting. And these are the exact type of people who would go in voting with an agenda.
We aren't in a war in 2020 that's drafting young men from the United States. The first two songs on "What's Going On" are very obviously referring to the Vietnam War and men dying endlessly and that instantly dates it.
Yes, how could a black man singing “There’s far too many of us dying” mean anything in 2020?
Christian Hill is like a bad take machine, at least this isn’t dog-whistling white supremacist shit like his other poats
Give it 20 years and Herb Albert's album whipped cream and other Delights will be number one
Mr.Sean, musictoad and LitHum05 like this
the old list(s) were too 'pale' & 'historical' but....this list is too much in the opposite direction, perhaps not 'just' for 'musical' reasons. something in the middle would be the most accurate representation of its kind but... i'm afraid that's too much to ask in the current climate :shh:
I used to have a fair amount of respect for critics' opinions even if they didn't share my preferences. If something I hadn't heard was high up on one of these lists, it would pique my curiosity and I would at least give it a go (and often be rewarded). That would be a waste of time now.
tbh i wish some o' y'all would just go full mask off and say how you really feel
But I don't want to get banned.
A mixture of the predictable, the mediocre and the risible, with added diversity hires.
Anyway, this thread is an embarrassment. Beyond parody.
I hope this new list helps stop the rioting in the U.S....
I love how their conveniently ignoring the blatantly obvious fact that modern day pop artists reference blatantly to Marvin Gaye and that they are sampled by modern day pop artists which isn't something that can be said for The Beatles.
It's likely What's Going On appeared on youths lists as well as oldies lists, hence coming in No 1.
Post by mintyjackhole on Sept 23, 2020 12:12:30 GMT
I know I have listened to any one of D'Angelo's three albums more than I have all The Beatles albums combined. At least in the last 20 years.
The idea that '70s rock is less popular now than in 2003, (from a list they have been bitching about for 17 years,) has to be some kind of WOKE conspiracy. It couldn't possibly be that people are more likely to listen to Lauryn Hill or Kanye West more than The Byrds these days. The passage of time is a conspiracy against good music for these joyless shut-ins.
What surprises me is Terrapin Station is really going in on the anti-woke hot takes. He thinks no one could actually like such popular music, when he is often defending current music, and pop stuff in general. He seems really bent out of shape people like so much Black music.
Post by unemployed bellend on Sept 23, 2020 13:33:20 GMT
There is obviously a biased demographic here and possibly an ethnic one. How else do you explain multiple entries for Kanye West and Jay Z? However these poles are conducted and how respondents are selected is always going to skew results in odd ways. Being a US publication I was surprised to see Oasis, Pulp and Blur featured at all.
PhoenixWoman (on Marley’s Legend)
It's also a freaking greatest hits compiled posthumously, which means it isn't any kind of artistic statement. It's just a bunch of songs other people liked.
(I don’t get this argument. I’ll take the original Nuggets or any Back From The Grave compilation over any Beatles or Who “artistic statement”)
TheMovieRad (was making a joke)
Just politically correct leftist propaganda keeping all those republican artists out of the top 150
It's worse than that. Much worse.
If Highway 61 Revisited was never released, I’m not sure we would have gotten Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, Astral Weeks, What’s Going On, grunge, rap, and possibly even hip hop. I don’t know if it’s a ‘perfect album’, but to me it will always be #1 as far as influence goes.
“I work in IT and have infinitely more knowledge on this topic than you ever will so you can drop the arrogant attitude. Thanks.” Strat-Mangler
Post by douchemarimba on Sept 23, 2020 14:28:02 GMT
Oh, shit. Stop the presses! Someone dare have different opinions than those at THEE StEvE HoofMAN music forums? Fuck! You live long enough and you see it all.
Can't have any of THOSE people getting recognition. Now you stop being woke and (whatever other trendy term is used for poking at people that evolved past 1965...virtue signalling?) and get fucking SERGEANT PEPPER BACK AT NUMBER ONE NOW!!!
It is amazing, though, that it isn't okay for other people's tastes to change over a 17 year period. Aside from a handful of artists and albums, my tastes have changed dramatically since 2003. Perhaps in my own personal life, I discovered certain acts that I wasn't aware of at 18 years old. Through downloads, YouTube, friends, record collections given to me, not to mention some hip-hop albums that used samples that had me searching out the original song, my tastes have evolved exponentially. My world doesn't still revolve around fucking Revolver and Billion Dollar Babies.
If that makes me "woke", then oh well. To be fair, I wasn't being a racist shitmuffin back then, either.
I never thought being a decent human being was a political agenda. Perhaps I was wrong.