DCC Complaints Greatest Hits!
Jan 22, 2018 11:22:10 GMT
Post by hugofuguzev on Jan 22, 2018 11:22:10 GMT
forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-few-angry-but-sort-of-funny-notes-people-sent-me-about-my-mastering-work-imagined-defects.336196/
Huffy started this thread in 2013 poating a litany of complaints people had about some of the DCC discs. Naturally, one guy ("Jeffrey T") made a valid point about how Hoffman fucked with some of these albums:
"Well, I hate to say this because I'm probably going to be torn a new one, but there are those of us who will repurchase something from our past in hopes of hearing it just as we remember it. I know this is a point you've made yourself Steve. You've said you wanted to hear the popular mixes and such the way you remember them at a certain time. Why is it that those of us who remember playing our brother's cassette of Mr. Miller's "Greatest Hits" should be deprived of such an experience in improved sound quality?
If you're going to argue that I can just buy the standard issue CD (or buy a used cassette) then I'll counter with "you can listen through an AM radio" to hear what you remember as well.
I think part of the experience of an album is the sequencing... be it crossfades, single edits on a compilation, lack of spaces (yes I read the 'Heartbeat City' threads).
So I will respectfully throw my opinion out there and say that I do kinda get where those type of complainers are coming from. I've heard plenty of people say they're trying to collect single versions of certain songs...
I respect and admire your work Steve. I hope this doesn't come across as an attack. And I understand your argument about not wanting to dump the songs to digital in order to recreate such things, however it's my opinion that sometimes things are necessary in order to present the album that people know and love."
Also:
"1. If an album was released using a certain version of a song, that version should be used, unless you want to retitle the album and let people know it's not what it was before. Obviously there are two schools of "original master recording". Using the master they created for the album, with the songs already on it in their proper versions with crossfades and such is one way to go. I believe you've done this method before as you mentioned somewhere not fading to silence between tracks and letting the bias noise play... I realize the alternate method of "original master recording" is creating a NEW master from the individual song masters which gets us closer to hearing the master in the end, but single versions have master tapes as well, even if they're 1 or 2 generations (I don't see where you'd get 3 or 4). If something has to be done in order to keep an album as it's always been, then we have to accept limitations.
2. It's not your album. Your job is to make the thing sound better, not to re-make the album using your own decisions as to lengths and such."
Naturally the other SHiTES in the discussion piledrived onto poor Jeffrey, who was probably banned for daring to question Steve's decisions.
Huffy started this thread in 2013 poating a litany of complaints people had about some of the DCC discs. Naturally, one guy ("Jeffrey T") made a valid point about how Hoffman fucked with some of these albums:
"Well, I hate to say this because I'm probably going to be torn a new one, but there are those of us who will repurchase something from our past in hopes of hearing it just as we remember it. I know this is a point you've made yourself Steve. You've said you wanted to hear the popular mixes and such the way you remember them at a certain time. Why is it that those of us who remember playing our brother's cassette of Mr. Miller's "Greatest Hits" should be deprived of such an experience in improved sound quality?
If you're going to argue that I can just buy the standard issue CD (or buy a used cassette) then I'll counter with "you can listen through an AM radio" to hear what you remember as well.
I think part of the experience of an album is the sequencing... be it crossfades, single edits on a compilation, lack of spaces (yes I read the 'Heartbeat City' threads).
So I will respectfully throw my opinion out there and say that I do kinda get where those type of complainers are coming from. I've heard plenty of people say they're trying to collect single versions of certain songs...
I respect and admire your work Steve. I hope this doesn't come across as an attack. And I understand your argument about not wanting to dump the songs to digital in order to recreate such things, however it's my opinion that sometimes things are necessary in order to present the album that people know and love."
Also:
"1. If an album was released using a certain version of a song, that version should be used, unless you want to retitle the album and let people know it's not what it was before. Obviously there are two schools of "original master recording". Using the master they created for the album, with the songs already on it in their proper versions with crossfades and such is one way to go. I believe you've done this method before as you mentioned somewhere not fading to silence between tracks and letting the bias noise play... I realize the alternate method of "original master recording" is creating a NEW master from the individual song masters which gets us closer to hearing the master in the end, but single versions have master tapes as well, even if they're 1 or 2 generations (I don't see where you'd get 3 or 4). If something has to be done in order to keep an album as it's always been, then we have to accept limitations.
2. It's not your album. Your job is to make the thing sound better, not to re-make the album using your own decisions as to lengths and such."
Naturally the other SHiTES in the discussion piledrived onto poor Jeffrey, who was probably banned for daring to question Steve's decisions.