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Post by thisonehurts on Apr 7, 2018 19:09:55 GMT
I'm sure Lester Bangs once said that if music isn't complete shit, objectively speaking, then you're not doing it right. With regard to pop music, Lester was probably correct. He was absolutely right that the Count Five were, all in all, far better than the tedious and "respectable" Yardbirds who inspired them. Even so, Lester Bangs never applied this rule to his beloved John Coltrane and Miles Davis records. Yes, the more 'punk' Miles Davis got (well, primal anyway), it's true that the more Bangs hated it. But of course he had his own SHites to deal with on a weekly/monthly basis, which must have influenced his opinions from time to time. I like to think 60 per cent of his work was written solely in order to exasperate people like Ben Fong-Torres.
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Post by graucho on Apr 7, 2018 19:12:14 GMT
I didn't realise that Lester Bangs made up those later Count Five albums in his famous article, until sometime after I read it in the Psychotic Reactions collected writings. If only shiteville had someone of his imagination when it came to fantasy rekkids. Interestingly the final 'Count Five album' - Snowflakes on the International Date Line did actually become an LP Psycho Daisies - Snowflakes.
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Post by thisonehurts on Apr 7, 2018 22:27:21 GMT
Yes, the more 'punk' Miles Davis got (well, primal anyway), it's true that the more Bangs hated it. But of course he had his own SHites to deal with on a weekly/monthly basis, which must have influenced his opinions from time to time. I like to think 60 per cent of his work was written solely in order to exasperate people like Ben Fong-Torres. Initially, yes. He couldn't make heads or tails of and despised On the Corner when it came out. Later he realized that it, along with Agharta, Pangea, et al. were Miles' greatest accomplishments. Lester did a full 180 degrees and felt that On the Corner was the single greatest music of the 1970s. Really? I didn't know that. Certainly, he was still slagging off On The Corner in 1976. I suppose Miles' retirement gave a lot of people time to catch up, re-listen, reassess. A bit like the hiatus between Justus and Good Times, when you think about it.
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Post by bradman on Apr 7, 2018 23:23:48 GMT
Didn't he also come around on Black Sabbath? I thought he hated 'em at first.
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Post by thisonehurts on Apr 7, 2018 23:32:50 GMT
He didn't like Agharta much at all, and said so in a very disillusioned 1976 review (note: apologies to fans of yummy tacos for all of this), but you may have just solved a mystery. His review/essay wasn't published until a year after his death, which I could never understand because it's full of masterful writing. Perhaps he did indeed change his view of the album after a couple more weeks' listening, and asked for his review to be shelved.
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Post by cockledge on Apr 8, 2018 3:49:11 GMT
Nickelback covering the Monkees would make for the world's best album! Rhino Presents: Monkees on your Nickelback!
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Post by Wanklein on Apr 8, 2018 5:30:38 GMT
He didn't like Agharta much at all, and said so in a very disillusioned 1976 review ( note: apologies to fans of yummy tacos for all of this), but you may have just solved a mystery. His review/essay wasn't published until a year after his death, which I could never understand because it's full of masterful writing. Perhaps he did indeed change his view of the album after a couple more weeks' listening, and asked for his review to be shelved. Quite right - how dare you have a meaningful, intelligent discussion about music when there is yummy food to be consumed. Isn't that what Hoofer's place is for? Sorry I forgot about the meaningful and intelligent part - carry right on.
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