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Post by thisonehurts on Apr 19, 2018 9:41:21 GMT
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Post by Sanjay Gupton on Apr 20, 2018 13:13:00 GMT
The poats after that link made me dumber. I could actually feel brain cells killing themselves.
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Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Apr 22, 2018 17:50:33 GMT
Capitol were the right label for the Beatles in the US. They had the clout, the marketing tools, and the manufacturing and distribution ability to keep the Beatles records in stores. Capitol was clearly 'in the mix' in the recipe for the Beatles' Stateside success as 1963 turned into 1964. It has been shown that Capitol had the manufacturing and marketing machine to make it happen with the single and the Meet The Beatles album on a grand scale. 'Any other label' did not. It would have had to have been another major label to have that same level of effectiveness and success. And we'll never know because that's not how it happened; it happened on Capitol. Capitol was the right label for the Beatles in America.Vee Jay - even with the success of the Beatles - couldn't cover its royalties to subsidiaries and filed for bankruptcy in 1966. It was a mismanaged company that was ill-equipped to handle the Beatles in the US. Maybe on a state level they could have gotten it done throughout the 1960s, but probably not. Swan re-issued 'She Loves You' in January to meet the demand caused by 'I Want To Hold Your Hand' and a SLY clip aired on the Jack Paar TV show that same month. It hit #1 on March 21, 1964, and would go on to sell 1 million copies. But Swan lost its option to release future Beatles songs because their contract had stipulated that ‘SLY” had to sell 50,000 copies in its first year, 1963, which it did not. The company went out of business in 1967. It took a major label to make a major dent for the Beatles in the US - for as long as the Beatles were around. Not only were those smaller labels like Swan and Vee Jay ill-equipped to handle the Beatles, most of them were ill-equipped to even stay in business. As history has shown, Capitol was the right label for the Beatles in America.DOUBLE VOID...please stop... you are wrong...CAPITOL RELEASED THE IWTHYH SINGLE THAT MADE THEM in the USA. ...done, done, done...YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. CAPITOL OWNED THEM...OVER...CAPITOL RELEASED MEET THE BEATLES which made THEM MEGASTARS in THE USA...done, done, done...LOL. NO, the caps are nails that need to be sunk into understanding... FACT: that had nothing to due with CAPITOL making the Beatles RICH, FAMOUS, in the USA...without them they would have still been in England in 1964...can you stop now? Can you sink this in your cranium...CAPITOL OWNED THE BEATLES they had everything to do with their success in the USA. CASE CLOSED DUDE.... Americans had this experience. Others are, understandably, jealous of the affection some people have for these albums. It's unconscious, but it's there.
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Post by hugofuguzev on Apr 23, 2018 5:22:42 GMT
I'm thinking M*****l needs to start popping some of these meds his old lady takes in order to become the perfect wife...
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Apr 23, 2018 7:15:10 GMT
I'm thinking M*****l needs to start popping some of these meds his old lady takes in order to become the perfect wife... Wouldn't help. His only chance looks to be Egas Moniz's little procedure...
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Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Apr 23, 2018 17:57:34 GMT
I think the monos on the first two Capitol albums CDs sound pretty bad actually. And not because they are folddowns, they are just loud and grating. Beatles Second Album (mono) is not a foldown... 6 of the tracks are (the exceptions being Long Tall Sally & I Call Your Name, plus the 3 mono tracks that the Duophonic tracks were made from on the stereo album - You Can't Do That, She Loves You, I'll Get You). Money and Thank You Girl are the most obvious examples of folddowns. WRONG!THEY ARE NOT FOLDOWNS on the MONO US BEATLES SECOND ALBUM...true MONO. Fake news. You are wrong. Money is a great example. The piano is a different performance in mono and stereo, and there's tapping in the intro of the mono mix/performance that isn't in the stereo. The mono version of Second Album does not have the mono mix, it has a fold down of the stereo mix.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Apr 23, 2018 18:13:25 GMT
You want the true mono? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUE MONO!
This information is so easily found online. If you actually give enough of a shit to discuss it, then you should be able to do just a little research and know what you are talking about. Idiot. And if you don't check your info before attempting to correct someone else, then I hope you get mono.
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Post by essayceedee on Apr 23, 2018 19:06:12 GMT
That's not egg dripping from his face.
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Post by graucho on Apr 23, 2018 19:53:42 GMT
I'm thinking M*****l needs to start popping some of these meds his old lady takes in order to become the perfect wife... He'd make a pretty good aging Stepford Wife in drag.
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Post by hugofuguzev on Apr 24, 2018 5:24:32 GMT
I'm thinking M*****l needs to start popping some of these meds his old lady takes in order to become the perfect wife... He'd make a pretty good aging Stepford Wife in drag. I'd say ol' mikey's halfway there already...what is it about SHiTEland that attracts so many people suffering from full on psychosis? M*****L is about one more negative comment about the Capitol albums away from shooting a Waffle House or something...
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Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Apr 26, 2018 17:37:22 GMT
I sometimes get the impression that some people hate the fact that the fabs were British. That was weak and is evidence of NOT having a credible argument as to why some are so obsessively against the American Capitol Albums. The "British Card"...when all else fails. And when remixes via the UK pretend 2014 albums have to compete with the Capitol original mixes. MAYBE...it's actually that some resent how the Beatles gravitated to America, had their most well known concerts in America, and had such a splash with The Ed Sullivan Show. The "British Card". Pretty weak. You notice Capitol fans don't flood threads downing the UK albums/CD's. No, something REALLY upsets a small group of vocal people when it comes to Capitol, threads with the name Capitol in them, and Capitol's original mixes. Sorry, the Beatles did business with Capitol and America. The rest is history. So try not to make up fake reasons that there is no evidence of.
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Post by graucho on Apr 26, 2018 20:00:54 GMT
My only comment on this is that I always thought the UK versions were better because there were more tracks on them.
Now I realise that wasn't really what I was thinking as a 13 year old Beatard-lite. It was just another manifestation of the seething jealousy I felt /feel for not being American.
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Post by bradman on Apr 26, 2018 23:47:21 GMT
Capitol stumbled into a couple of good LPs with Second Album and '65, but the UK records are the way to go when all is said and done.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Apr 27, 2018 2:16:17 GMT
Why is this even an issue in this age of playlists? It is easy: delete all the Ringo songs, one-half of the Harrison tunes, around one-quarter to one-third of McCartney's songs, eliminate all of Abbey Road and Let it Be, ignore all of the posthumous Anthology junk, and then you will end up with a (mostly) listenable Beatles collection. After the band broke up, Ringo was, however briefly, the most successful. I'm surprised Capitol never did an LP of all the Ringo songs. It would have been the perfect length too.
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