bradman
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Post by bradman on Aug 17, 2019 15:29:22 GMT
That's good info, I had no idea about Jill Gibson.
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Post by essayceedee on Aug 17, 2019 16:59:29 GMT
I’ve decided to continue my lifelong boycott of the Mamas and the Papas.
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Post by FabGear Prophylactic on Aug 18, 2019 18:25:17 GMT
Cass Elliot must be just about the most defamed person in 'the biz'. Fat girl jokes are always distressingly cruel, but the tedious "ham sandwich" story is sickening. Ah well, what a glorious alto voice she had. Sorry for the Shitey interlude; carry on...
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Aug 18, 2019 19:07:26 GMT
I wound up listening to a bunch of their stuff on youtube (the hits that I've know for years along with a few deep cuts that I never heard before.) I also found out that Ray Manzarek played on one of their songs (No Salt On Her Tail.) Anyone know how that came about? I found one book on google (The Oral History) but the pages that likely would have told the story were not included in the preview.
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Post by Chicken in Black on Aug 18, 2019 22:45:56 GMT
I have the "All The Leaves Are Brown" compilation, which is basically all their albums minus the reunion one, which they disowned. More than enough for anybody.
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Post by mintyjackhole on Aug 19, 2019 11:53:05 GMT
I hear "California Dreaming" playing in the background somewhere about once a year. More than enough for anyone.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Aug 19, 2019 12:55:30 GMT
I've had a best of Mamas & Papas CD for a few years, which is fairly enjoyable in small doses, and recently found a download of their entire catalogue.
Jesus Fucking Christ. It's the very epitome of the singles + filler formula, even though they were most popular probably right at the time and place where the album was considered an artform. They're horrible. So may middling group compositions (really, John Phillips wasn't just an abuser, but nowhere near a good songwriter as he's made out to be), but some seriously offensive white-ified versions of soul songs and already-mediocre Beatles songs (I want to try whatever drugs they were taking to think anyone needed a high-kicking cabaret arrangement of I Call Your Name) sat next to some shitty showtunes.
The one saving grace was listening to the remixed version of their last contractual-obligation early 70s album People Like Us, which actually sounds like a passable soft-rock record now instead of the anaemic mush it's sounded like forever.
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Aug 19, 2019 14:12:09 GMT
Jesus Fucking Christ. It's the very epitome of the singles + filler formula, even though they were most popular probably right at the time and place where the album was considered an artform. The same can be said about The Association and, to a lesser extent. the Fifth Dimension.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Aug 19, 2019 14:39:29 GMT
Jesus Fucking Christ. It's the very epitome of the singles + filler formula, even though they were most popular probably right at the time and place where the album was considered an artform. The same can be said about The Association and, to a lesser extent. the Fifth Dimension. I don't want to go too far into SHite territory, but I give a pass to The Association simply because I really like their own material and were each fairly decent individual songwriters. I can definitely listen to most of their albums without cringing, which I can't do for The Mamas & Papas.
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Post by FabGear Prophylactic on Aug 19, 2019 23:15:32 GMT
I'll stick up for "Along Comes the Association" elpee, which is that rarity: a lovely, perky candyfloss pop rekkid that stands up to repeated listening. It would have been (in 1966 mind you) Peter Parker's favorite album and yet also something Spiderman would have enjoyed, too. Justifies the cultish reputation of producer wunderkind Curt Boettcher, which was quite a retrospective *thing* among the critics back in the late '90s. Otherwise The Association are another good band from a time chock-a-block with good bands, n'est-ce-pas?
As for the Mamas and the Papas, I always thought it was the two leads: I think Mama Cass could sing the phone book and sound, at least, pretty good. Denny Doherty was a really good singer too. The songs were always kind of phone-book *meh*; the rest of their appeal was Laurel Canyon shabby chic, judging from the reactions of grownups in the media back in the day.
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Post by Chicken in Black on Aug 19, 2019 23:35:26 GMT
I hear "California Dreaming" playing in the background somewhere about once a year. More than enough for anyone. Well, it's unfair. "Dedicated to the One I Love" is also quite good. It was used to great effect in Lynne Ramsey's "Morvern Callar".
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Felonious Spunk
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Post by Felonious Spunk on Aug 20, 2019 2:18:17 GMT
I thought Sunshine of Your Love was a 5th Dimension original until I was a teen as I’d never heard the Cream album but we had Age of Aquarius around the house. So I guess I have a soft spot for them and the Association as we had that Greatest Hits album that’s in every Goodwill.
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bradman
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Post by bradman on Aug 20, 2019 19:10:35 GMT
Classical Gas beats all of that shit.
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Aug 20, 2019 21:07:50 GMT
Classical Gas beats all of that shit. Yeah, I love it too. Here's a different version that I really like.
Mason Williams: "During the time that CLASSICAL GAS was a hit I was also the head writer for THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS COMEDY HOUR on CBS. I had seen a film titled "GOD IS DOG SPELLED BACKWARDS” at The Encore, an off beat movie house in L.A. The film was a collection of approximately 2500 classical works of art, mostly paintings, that flashed by in three minutes. Each image lasted only two film frames, or twelve images a second! At the end of the film the viewer was pronounced "cultural" since they had just covered "3000 years of art in 3 minutes!"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 19:47:27 GMT
STeVE (Nov 5, 2016):
Hoofy (Aug 21, 2019):
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