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Post by essayceedee on Feb 22, 2020 23:26:47 GMT
It’s when the midrange magic is so intense that you piss yourself.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Feb 22, 2020 23:28:02 GMT
I want to be filled with that ooey gooey midrange.
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Post by bradman on Feb 23, 2020 2:58:21 GMT
I'm shootin' ropes of midrange.
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Post by audiopro on Feb 23, 2020 12:37:47 GMT
I think it was a thread about Pet Sounds which made me realise that it was all bullshit over there.
In short: 1990 CD version: No Noised. Bits (tastefully) spliced in from the multi to cut down on noise. Trash. Linnet & Walsh are worse than Hitler, etc. EMI 100 / Simply Vinyl LP version (same stamper used for both): sonic nirvana, second only to the DCC.
You've doubtlessly already guessed that that LP was cut from the CD.
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Post by bradman on Feb 23, 2020 14:28:47 GMT
No Noise is the Boogeyman lurking in the shadows of many releases, according to a lot of those guys. They claim it's on all sorts of things that it's not.
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Post by hoofyflipflops on Feb 24, 2020 4:29:06 GMT
I think it was a thread about Pet Sounds which made me realise that it was all bullshit over there. In short: 1990 CD version: No Noised. Bits (tastefully) spliced in from the multi to cut down on noise. Trash. Linnet & Walsh are worse than Hitler, etc. EMI 100 / Simply Vinyl LP version (same stamper used for both): sonic nirvana, second only to the DCC. You've doubtlessly already guessed that that LP was cut from the CD. You mean Hoofy cut the DCC LP from the 1990 Linett CD!?
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Post by GeddyLeePierce on Feb 24, 2020 6:51:51 GMT
I’m a masochist and a Beach Boys freak, but I still rank Pet Sounds about 3rd in their catalog <cough>. The 2012 MFSL SACD might be the best version but it’s not going to change your life. Any version will give you a good idea of what the album is about.
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Post by bradman on Feb 24, 2020 7:53:11 GMT
I'm mono first, then probably the MFSL. I should like to inflict the sessions box on the entire group here.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Feb 24, 2020 9:15:22 GMT
You bastards just made me buy a 72 Carl & The Passions/ Pet Sounds double LP (I only had the albums separately before).
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Feb 24, 2020 15:00:07 GMT
I never got into Pet Sounds much until they "opened it up" with the stereo/surround versions. I remember waiting for maybe two years for them to finally release The Pet Sounds Sessions. Disc Jockey Records had a fancy computer database that customers could look up releases on and I waited and waited for it to be confirmed.
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Post by audiopro on Feb 25, 2020 2:29:13 GMT
I think it was a thread about Pet Sounds which made me realise that it was all bullshit over there. In short: 1990 CD version: No Noised. Bits (tastefully) spliced in from the multi to cut down on noise. Trash. Linnet & Walsh are worse than Hitler, etc. EMI 100 / Simply Vinyl LP version (same stamper used for both): sonic nirvana, second only to the DCC. You've doubtlessly already guessed that that LP was cut from the CD. You mean Hoofy cut the DCC LP from the 1990 Linett CD!? No, it was EMI, in the late 1990s for its EMI 100 series vinyl reissue. Simply Vinyl then used the same plates for their version. There's been some dispute over which tape Hoofy used. Mark Linnett himself has said that the actual master was missing before Hoofy requested it, which blows his story about using both the original and the so-called New York dub to patch his version together. He said he made a 30ips dub, which was used for the DCC LP. So much for "From The Original Master Tapes."
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Post by hoofyflipflops on Feb 25, 2020 2:32:03 GMT
You mean Hoofy cut the DCC LP from the 1990 Linett CD!? No, it was EMI, in the late 1990s for its EMI 100 series vinyl reissue. Simply Vinyl then used the same plates for their version. There's been some dispute over which tape Hoofy used. Mark Linnett himself has said that the actual master was missing before Hoofy requested it, which blows his story about using both the original and the so-called New York dub to patch his version together. He said he made a 30ips dub, which was used for the DCC LP. So much for "From The Original Master Tapes." Gotchya. Maybe, Hoofy requested the master after he stole it, to throw everyone off the scent...because, you know, anytime there's a missing tape...
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Post by hoofyflipflops on Feb 25, 2020 2:33:39 GMT
You bastards just made me buy a 72 Carl & The Passions/ Pet Sounds double LP (I only had the albums separately before). That's the version I have. It sounds fantastic to me. Or at least "good enough for my bronze ears."
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Post by audiopro on Feb 25, 2020 2:45:11 GMT
I drank the Kool Aid and bought the DCC CD. It's okay if you like a lot of bass and peak distortion. The egregious faults are a tape wobble at the start of Wouldn't It Be Nice (his trusty old Wollensak didn't get up to speed quickly enough), and a load of clipped samples which caused huge splats when I tried to dub it to DAT for the radio station library. The track which has the flyback whistle of a television set whenever the backing vocals come in is unfiltered (I forget which track, but it used to make my fillings rattle.) Let's Go Away For Awhile is full of static clicks which competent engineers usually paint out. Or maybe they're not on the tape, and it's actually the sound of his valves rattling?
For those who have it, I recommend cashing in, getting the Capitol mono/stereo twofer and spending the change on a weekend away with one you love.
Hang on. Splats? I've got Steve all wrong! The man is a genius! By clipping the signal, he's made sure it can't be copied digitally to DAT, a very real concern for the record industry in 1992. Steve has succeeded where CBS failed.
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