No-one gives a fuck about that dead fat idiot anymore.
Elvis fans have to be the strangest of the lot and are obsessed with collecting any old shite with the stupid fucker on it
Elvis fans are definitely the freakiest fuckers on the planet, with a horrible devotion that's a mixture of religious and necrophiliac. They seemingly believe that his death was the whole point and it was all that he was gearing towards, just like SHites and their love for that creepy old man that hangs around Leann Rimes.
Beatards have nothing on Elvis freaks (Chapman wasn't a tard, he merely removed a past-his-prime tit from the gene pool). They're way too fat and childlike to leave their houses.
"Definitely. The other night I watched the 2018 film adaptation of "Fahrenheit 451," starring Michael B. Jordan as the fireman Montag, who burns books, art and history. This film is an interesting take on the book and it was creative how they updated the story to include the tracking and burning of physical books in addition to eBooks as files stored on hard drives. The firemen are given ample amounts of power, but controlled mainstream media paints them as heroes who are protecting and saving society when in reality, they're evil henchmen helping the powers that be to re-write history. My favorite scene in the film is when Montag holds an actual book for the first time and I instantly imagined how Montag would've responded if he were holding an LP or CD for the first time."
Post by respiratoryproblems on Jan 16, 2019 8:51:10 GMT
JFC that thread about the new Beach Boys release (quick summary: a pretty generous but musically uninteresting digital-only compilation of 70+ unreleased songs/mixes from a fairly interesting and creative time in the band's history, after Smile but before Brian Wilson mentally checked out, plus another collection of four or five uninspired gigs from 1968) is a fucking trainwreck.
There's a guy on thread from The Beach Boys' research team, who's helped dig in the archives and compile it who is what I'd consider an 'expert', and has specifically said that the record company considers it a niche release and they have a lot of resistance putting it out at all, but all anyone in Shiteville can think about is how they've been gypped for not getting it on CD, and wah wah wah. It's hard to know who to feel less sorry for in this ridiculous exchange.
Still no CD release?
Nop_e. It’s called “purchase the download and make a cd”
You know how back to front this sounds?
I hear ya, I recently bought some NOS TDK/BASF CD-R's in plastic from the late 90's for a buck a piece.
Can't believe I'm buying vintage CD-R's for the reason you mentioned.
Pool_Of_Tears shares his pain:
I wish there was a physical release, too, but it is what it is. I decided to ourachase flac files and make my own set.
Rick Bartlett doubles down:
It's a most certain invitation for bootlegging. Could get into myself!
I'm sure most would prefer the real deal.
But if Capitol wont play, others shall have their way.
Capitol would even be better off pressing and printed 10,000 copies of CD's even
just to suit the diehards and cash in.
Meanwhile, I've obtained all the sets without paying a cent!
The ball is back in Capitol/EMI's court as far as I'm concerned.
EdwinM and Rick complain about how the rappers are spoiling it for everyone:
The thing the record companies don't understand is that there is a generation gap. You can get away with not releasing a hiphop album on cd or vinyl, but the average rock fan really like his vinyl or cd collection.
It's crazy! while vinyl is so 'hip' again and so much modern music is available on that format, and us old fella's are dealt
with buying Mp3?!!!! Like Seriously?
It's a 'what the...' situation to me.
EdwinM mentions Mike Love, which sets off a few SHiTE alarms:
Maybe we should forward the link to Mr Mike Love somewhere next week (when my order is sent), he seems like the person that is very keen on earning money.
Now it gets fun...aoxomoxoa calls out Rick for his bootlegging suggestion:
I love it when people publicly admit they are thieves. :rolleyes:
Catbirdman gets in on the act too:
Sorry, I can't stay silent about this. Do you realize that the compilers of these amazing collections have shared how much resistance they're getting from Capitol to even release these in any format? And yet you decide, brazenly, to steal the material and boast about it on a message board? I acknowledge that many people in the target demographic value physical formats above all else, and that's anyone's right to feel that way. But that doesn't entitle you to throw a public tantrum and cut directly into the sales that the bean counters are watching. Would you rather they stop releasing these at all? Keep it up and that's exactly what will happen.
To Alan Boyd and Mark Linett: thank you, thank you, for this annual labor of love, and I promise I will support these efforts by purchasing whatever Capitol agrees to release.
So does dustybooks:
Sadly that poster isn't even the first person I've seen publicly brag on the internet about not paying for these releases. Makes no sense to me, even in a selfish sense, as there's a direct cause and effect in play here.
But Rick is the defender of the little man, and knows what he's talking about:
Before you start playing 'look at me, and how supportive I am' bull.
I've spent 30 years buying every album release, official merch, solo albums from direct websites,
so don't preach that rubbish to me. You don't know how much I have paid money to
The Beach Boys, Brian, Al and many related artists, band members albums.
Also, when have I not acknowledged the work behind these compilers and their work?
I was making a statement against Capitol/EMI, so don't put words in my mouth.
If you call my reasons stated as 'throwing a tantrum', well, you have a lot to learn.
My reasons are as valid as the next persons, so pull your head in and have a good day!
EdwinM backs him up (extra points for 'beancounters'):
These beancounters should realise that most of us would have paid more for this music if they put it on a silver disc in a plastic box instead of a flac file. And they can keep booklet and promotion simple for my concern.
Someone suggests he can get the same music, for free on Spotify. He's OUTRAGED:
I have spotify, sounds like a phone. For the artists sake I have no problem with streaming it sound off while I enjoy my CD. And I can burn CD's but I prefer factory made silver with a nice printed inlay in the box. Clear?
aoxoxoxoxmoaoxmaoawhatever takes further umbrage at Rick's retort:
With that same thinking I should get free groceries too. I've spend thousands at Krogers. They owe it to me
Rick Bartlett knows the system and endorses this:
They probably do, supermarkets are usually 100 percent markup.
You have absolutely no idea how retail works, do you ?
Rick goes for the jugular, ends up eating his own shit:
Ummmm, I was a Grocery Manager for 10 years.
aomomosmomxomxaom gets a good one in:
Did they fire you for stealing?
Rick hits those balls even harder:
HA! nope, I left to play music full time and then stopped because people were burning my stuff.
Uh oh, the Mike Alarm has gone off in some dusty basements. Enter SP Honeybunch:
That's quite an ironic take on Love's motivations. One would suspect that if he were so Keen on earning money, he wouldn't have waited over twenty years to recover writing credit and publishing revenue for BB songs that he wrote. Conceivably, he could have died performing the chicken dance in year 196x and never seen a dime from a couple dozen hits that Brian and Murry never credited him for.
But oldsurferdude, whose entire SHiTE oeuvre is literally a never ending screed against Mike Love (or 'Myke LuHV' as he calls him) displays how much of a hard-on he actually has for Mike:
He was going broke with all those divorces with huge alimony and child support payments. His sorry ass was dragged through the courts 5 or 6 times(lost count) so he decided to go after Brian to get more undeserved cash. I mean really, a word there, three words here and a couple of hooks? He knew Brian had long coattails and employed them as much as he could and still does. Lifestyles anyone?
This goes on for pages. All because someone didn't put out a CD or two of some second-rate outtakes and the old men are confused by technology. I even regret spending money on the downloads of these things because they're mostly worthless.
Post by Felonious Spunk on Jan 16, 2019 15:37:56 GMT
Capitol should press 10,000 for the diehards? Delusional! I doubt this gets 10,00 listens on free streaming services, let alone sell a fraction of that even if it was in seedee.
I can’t wait until Rhino decides to pull the plug on physical Monkees archive releases and starts doing those as download and streaming only. So much shaking and crying to come.
"I must say though, artists like Kurt or Thelonious Monk who people think have something to say of the highest importance but are really just suicidal or insane sort of freak me out. Why? Well, everyone thought Monk was really "out there" but they followed his lead and jazz changed. Turns out he really was insane and was finally locked up. Does that mean that the jazzers were wrong to follow him? No, but still." - STeVE
I would guess that things like Monkees archival releases, which they can probably sell a few thousand copies at most, are going to be the last standing physical releases. I mean, no one in his/her right mind is going to stream 28 false starts to some shitty "previously unissued" Peter Tork tune that never made the cut. That is an interesting characteristic about streaming, the fact that the songs being streamed are something people actually choose to listen to, as opposed to some coffee table tchotchke that will be played once and then consigned to a display shelf until the day the Monkees purchaser's heirs toss it into the trash.
"Desiring and then acquiring an expensive watch is prima facie evidence you are a cunt." — Steve Albini
My friend at the Blues Cruise says that even with a significantly older demographic, even their most popular artists are barely selling any CDs on the boat. When somebody like Taj Mahal barely sells 20 copies their most recent title, even when they're right there to sign it... it's over.