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Post by antiram on Oct 28, 2017 12:56:46 GMT
Music is my main vice, I love it to much to quit. Couldn't do it. Grrr... This is the standard line (or it would be if c.c. had managed to spell "too" right) SHite logic dictates that they spend the most money on buying shit, they spend the most money on gear to hear it on, so of course they "love music" more than anyone... Of course, they don't give a shit about "music" in reality. They love having piles of Beatle shit. Or Zeppelin shit. Or Steely Dan shit. Piles of it. That is not the same as "loving music" I love music. I love to hear its evolution over the years. I love the joy of bonding with music I never heard before. I love discussing it. I love its effect on mood. I love how different music suits different circumstances. I love learning about its history. I love playing my bass, no matter how poorly I do it. I have probably heard more music of more variety than 90% of all SHites. And I've managed to love it that much without buying a piece of "physical product" (yeesh, could there be a less musical name for it?) in 16 years and counting. These guys are like weirdos who have stacks of old Playboy and Hustler magazines and claim they are proof that they "love women", despite their not having had a date in 30 years. SHites don't love music. In fact, they are quite vocal about how much they fucking hate music; aren't these the guys who say everything after 1980 sucks and music wasn't invented before 1962? SHites love obsessive collecting, which means spending good, real money on shit they never even fucking play. I dunno if I am going to be able to handle hanging out at Stereo Central. Every thing a SHite says sends me into tirades about nothing, which makes me just as bad as they are on one level. Sigh, I need some music to pick me up. Back to rutracker.org
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Post by antiram on Oct 28, 2017 13:33:35 GMT
And this month, I took about 40 LPs to a used record shop [...blah, blah, Dylan, Petty, replaced on CD, blah blah...] and got $162 for them. So in buying/selling music this year, I'm ahead of the game. He sells 40 records for $162 and he's "ahead of the game". He doesn't mention that those 40 records originally cost him somewhere in the neighborhood of $600. Once, decades after I sold my last vinyl rekkid, I thought about the money I had wasted as a teenager buying them. If I had taken that $3000 I had blown in re-purposed lunch money and Xmas/birthday funds and whatever I could make shoveling snow, and had simply bought $3000 worth of shares in Apple (the electronics company, not the failed vanity label) instead, I would have precisely $997,500 now. That doesn't include the additional $20K or so I blew after turning 18... It's hard to be more behind "the game" than that.
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Post by AnalogRearEnd on Oct 28, 2017 22:22:11 GMT
I'd feel sorry for them, but I'm too busy laughing.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Oct 28, 2017 23:10:05 GMT
I have bought many CDs and will buy many more, but I don't consider ANY of them to be investments.
Oh, and loving music and collecting it are two different pleasures for me. I collect shit by artists that I will enjoy listening to, but if it was just about the music, I'd go digital. But I want to collect something. Might as well be CDs. Just as fun and useless as anything else.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 29, 2017 0:20:05 GMT
Why sacrifice a normal, healthy lifestyle for shelves of CDs and records? Some SHites are LP and CD hoarders not far of what you would see on those hoarder reality TV shows. There is a fine line between being OCD and being a total screwball. I suspect many SHites made that transition years ago.
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Post by krabapple on Oct 29, 2017 5:50:50 GMT
My colon produces a physical product once every day or so, if I'm lucky.
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Post by jeatletoes on Oct 29, 2017 15:08:03 GMT
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Post by graucho on Oct 29, 2017 18:49:51 GMT
On that thread Eric777 is one poster who seems to have be able to self reflect and comes up with imo, some valid insights. I like him. In contrast, 'broshfab4' - is he a Shite cliche or what? 50 something male with a 20 year old woman on their avatar (a subject for another thread but what is that SHF trend all about?) Can imagine his library - it's in alphabetical order, i.e. Beatles before Monkees - and that's it!
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Post by screendump on Oct 29, 2017 23:02:31 GMT
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Oct 30, 2017 0:42:27 GMT
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Post by antiram on Oct 30, 2017 2:12:06 GMT
Is he sure that smell isn't ass?
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Oct 30, 2017 2:53:06 GMT
Is he sure that smell isn't ass? Do you mean that (extra) shitty Badfinger album? Arnold Grove likes this
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Post by antiram on Nov 2, 2017 2:57:05 GMT
Yes, it reminds him that he's like a dog. The more stuff I can pad around me the better. It reminds me that I am like the dog with a voracious appetite. Gotta have it for a nice amount of security. I look at it like an investment, and I have seen in many many cases that physical media retains a good amount of value. Will most of my physical media be low worth...yes. Is low worth still worth YES. But like that stray comic book, you play your cards right, the few will pay for the others in time. Meanwhile, unlike streaming, when I watch or listen to what I own, I am enjoying in highest quality. All I ever need, and I will get something back in the end. Streaming...it is just gone. forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/owned-physical-media-and-or-downloaded-music-vs-streaming-services.709524/page-5#post-17462408He is such a rube. "Physical product" is a retarded investment. To illustrate very simply. when I started buying rekkids like this knucklehead back around 1980, for an original pressing of most classic 60's albums (imagine typical fare like Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper, and The Doors), the going rate was about $20 for a NM copy. Nowadays, they will run you about $60. So, at least you can say, hey it tripled, right? Except that $20 in 1980 is worth $59.41 in 2017 dollars. So, the *retail* price of rekkids has precisely kept up with inflation, no more no less. Note to whiny SHites who bitch and moan about new vinyl albums costing $30: that works out to $10.10 in 1980 (a little higher than the 9.98 list price of most big stars, sans Tom Petty, but not much). Just keepin' up with inflation. Of course, unless genesim plans to devote hours a day at a whole second job, to wit creating listings for eBay, he will not receive the retail price for his rekkids, but wholesale. Which is gonna be about a quarter of the retail value. Our model collection from the 1980's, breaking even for 37 years, just took a 75% hit, blammo. Usually people sell their shit all at once because of medical emergency or something, so they take that 75% hit. Then, there is the macabre fact that SHites are afraid to face: in about ten years, the market will be absolutely flooded with all kinds of original pressings and rare stuff as these fat old men start dying off. Elvis collectibles, once the shining example of bankability, have gone the way of Sears stock; all kinds of "rare" titles are filling the stores, and bewildered millennials are not scarfing them up at $100 each like their grandads did. Prices have crashed for all that stuff; there's never been a better time to become an Elvis nut as now. But nobody wants to be an Elvis nut anymore. It is a great time to short-sell Beatles junk now (or just sell it, assuming you don't mind the 75% hit; better than the 95% hit down the road, when you really need the moolah) A lot fewer people are going to want it in 2027. On a tangential note, here is a radical idea: who says you have to own physical product to enjoy music? "Streaming" isn't gone the moment you play it; the opposite is true: it is there any time you want it (and as a bonus, anywhere too). I wish I had some junk to sell this guy, he sounds like such a sucker. </rant>
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Post by jeatletoes on Nov 2, 2017 17:07:41 GMT
Why do you think they push for the youngsters to love the same music as them? They need to sell these to someone, when they are going into the nursing home.
As for streaming, they can just record the damn album ("What U Hear") and save it to a CDR. Now you've got your precious physical media that you can fondle all day long.
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Post by AnalogRearEnd on Nov 8, 2017 6:50:40 GMT
Too many words.
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