You Don't Have the Ears (or a revealing enough system), PAL!
Jun 8, 2018 19:55:15 GMT
Post by Sanjay Gupton on Jun 8, 2018 19:55:15 GMT
The video in this thread is pretty boring, but the SHiTey responses are the usual vinyl loving gold (and I really like records, but not for any of the reasons these guys do):
Richard Austen says:
vinylkid58 replies:
A reasonable assumption, if you ask me, But Richard has seen the light:
A Voyd reference looks essentially like an AR underneath but used a belt drive three motor system. They don't make them anymore, so you can't really refute anything Richard says, but I'm sure he's hearing everything you WISH you could hear, pal.
This kind of crap from richbdd01 always sounded utterly stupid to me:
Funny, CD's go down to 20hz. What's a record get to before rumble makes the woofers go crazy? Maybe 45hz? If anything, digital recordings definitely have it all over analog in the bass department.
But then Richard comes back with this mostly reasonable response:
What kind of SHiTe is this? Do you need a Voyd Reference with three motors or is a thrift store cd player truly the ultimate? I'm starting to think he doesn't have the ears for this hobby.
Richard Austen says:
There is no treble or bass loss - provided you have very good turntable/arm and cartridge. Unfortunately, most people had crappy 1980s rubbish tables and yes those were horrid. $15 cartridges that were on their 8,000th hour when they're good for 400 hours kind of destroys the highs and lows and sound muffled. LOL.
vinylkid58 replies:
Which is why (IMHO) most people gave up their vinyl for the brand new CD format. And the convenience factor as well.
A reasonable assumption, if you ask me, But Richard has seen the light:
I did the same thing - then I auditioned a Voyd Reference turntable with quality arm and cartridge and that sinking feeling of why did I throw away my records - and worse my parents records filled with original Beatles and Elvis Presley albums. Oops. That along with having my bike spokes filled with rookie and early Gretsky hockey cards that go for a bomb each - shudder :oops::rolleyes::mudscrying:
A Voyd reference looks essentially like an AR underneath but used a belt drive three motor system. They don't make them anymore, so you can't really refute anything Richard says, but I'm sure he's hearing everything you WISH you could hear, pal.
This kind of crap from richbdd01 always sounded utterly stupid to me:
I think the thing that makes me laugh is that it’s completely the opposite of my experience. I feel that cd’s had a much poorer bass response in comparison to vinyl.
Funny, CD's go down to 20hz. What's a record get to before rumble makes the woofers go crazy? Maybe 45hz? If anything, digital recordings definitely have it all over analog in the bass department.
But then Richard comes back with this mostly reasonable response:
And to be fair to CD - it was new in the 1980s and most of the machines stunk and most of the recordings were just copied over. SO here you have turntables with 40 years of improvements and the first bunch of CD kind of sucked. Fast forward to today and CD can be very good indeed. And the players (some of them) will trounce a lot of turntables. It still mainly comes down to the recording though - a great recording on either format beats a weak recording on the opposing format.
CD also doesn't have the defects that vinyl has. I want to buy several analog planet LPs but they are very expensive and it makes me not want to wade into them for the disappointment and hassle if they suck. This doesn't happen with CD.
CD also doesn't have the defects that vinyl has. I want to buy several analog planet LPs but they are very expensive and it makes me not want to wade into them for the disappointment and hassle if they suck. This doesn't happen with CD.
What kind of SHiTe is this? Do you need a Voyd Reference with three motors or is a thrift store cd player truly the ultimate? I'm starting to think he doesn't have the ears for this hobby.