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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 1:58:02 GMT
Chris C: "Speedy Gonzales" featuring Robin ("Wonderful Summer" and backup singer on all "Partridge Family" songs) Ward. I can hear her in my head right now ... "La, La, La ..., La, La, La, La, La, La ... :righton:
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Post by aaa-appreciator on Aug 14, 2020 21:18:12 GMT
Chris C: "Speedy Gonzales" featuring Robin ("Wonderful Summer" and backup singer on all "Partridge Family" songs) Ward. I can hear her in my head right now ... "La, La, La ..., La, La, La, La, La, La ... :righton: STeVe: FFS, does he want us to guess? She choked on his weiner at lunch, that’s what I’m going with. Ask Mikaela to wake me up when it’s time for the big reveal. Jesus Christ, what a douche nozzle.
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Post by mintyjackhole on Aug 17, 2020 14:00:07 GMT
Hey Karla! Did I ever tell you about the time I boned Speedy Gonzalez?
Whatever Karla makes off the forum fundraiser is not enough.
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Post by hugofuguzev on Aug 18, 2020 7:18:42 GMT
Chris C: "Speedy Gonzales" featuring Robin ("Wonderful Summer" and backup singer on all "Partridge Family" songs) Ward. I can hear her in my head right now ... "La, La, La ..., La, La, La, La, La, La ... :righton: STeVe: FFS, does he want us to guess? She choked on his weiner at lunch, that’s what I’m going with. Ask Mikaela to wake me up when it’s time for the big reveal. Jesus Christ, what a douche nozzle. Why do I get the feeling that in reality, STORIES are all Hoffy has about this Robin Ward broad...he'd have the SHiTEs believe he fucked her brains out and is still the only man ever to bring her to orgasm, though... What a fucking asshole. Seriously, is the man that goddamn desperate for attention he has to continue being a blatant pathological liar even in his sunset years? Fuck me with a chainsaw...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 23:42:38 GMT
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Post by Flat Transfer on Aug 22, 2020 0:00:38 GMT
Fucking bullshit. You may prefer the DCC version, but it was not xfrd flat in spite of what Steve Hoffman claims. On the contrary imo and knowing what the flat tape sounds like, the DCC version is actually the most re-equalised version ever issued. No version of Pet Sounds has ever been released without equalisation and theat includes the original mono lp in 1966. Hope that helps clear things up...... Mark My final attempt at clearing up some incorrect "facts" about the various Pet Sounds releases: 1- I'm not implying it, it is a fact. The DCC version is not a flat xfr and if it were there wouldn't be any "Hoffman" tape to use (why use a "flat" copy from DCC when we already have lots of flat copies made in 1966). The flat master does not sound like the DCC release, which is fine. If you like the DCC CD then it may be a great mastering job, but it most certainly is not a flat xfr. 2- Hoffman's tape would be a heavily eqd copy and while some listeners prefer the sound of it, Brian does not.
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Post by Rubber Soul Remix on Aug 22, 2020 0:07:32 GMT
People care what Brian Wilson thinks? That old vegetable probably doesn't even know he recorded "Pet Sounds" let alone the fact he is Brian Wilson.
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Post by Potsie Hoofman on Aug 22, 2020 1:07:46 GMT
Which lunch did BRIAN tell SteVE that?
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Aug 22, 2020 5:43:00 GMT
Where are Mark Linett’s comments posted? I cannot imagine Hoffman allowing anything so against the grain to stay up on his site for any time longer than its takes a gorf to find and delete it.
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Post by audiopro on Aug 22, 2020 22:52:19 GMT
Where are Mark Linett’s comments posted? I cannot imagine Hoffman allowing anything so against the grain to stay up on his site for any time longer than its takes a gorf to find and delete it. I think the original thread was on smileysmile.net's forum. Mark Linett posts there as yrplace. I tried a cursory Google, but couldn't find it among the 30,000 other Pet Sounds threads there. As I recall, Linett made the assertion that Hoffman couldn't have stolen the original master in 1992 because it was already missing. This, of course, means that the DCC "original master tape" legend is a lie.
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Post by audiopro on Aug 22, 2020 23:14:35 GMT
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Post by audiopro on Aug 22, 2020 23:16:36 GMT
Just in case it suddenly disappears, here's a cut and paste: I think the issue many have with Mr. Linett is that he often pulls the "Brian doesn't like it", or "Brian wouldn't okay that" card whenever he's questioned on something. Just from perusing the archives on this board, there's some interesting anecdotes to be found. Quoting Andrew Sandoval, in response to Linett's criticism of Sandoval's work on Pet Sounds: "...Funny story to cap this off. Mark called several of my colleagues to ask what analog master I used for Surf's Up reissue CD, because he wanted to use it for his DVD-A. I gave them all the same answer to pass on to Mark (who refused to call me, and after all of the nasty stuff he's said about me, I don't blame him): "Tell Mark it is a tape he can find if he just sorts through the various LP masters. Here's the big hint, it's not the one with the big letters MASTER written in his hand writing with a shrapie." It never fails to crack me up. The guy mislabeled many tapes - and he's the "expert." On the multi-track for Holland's "Steamboat" he wrote "River Song." On the multi for the unissued "Battle Hymn Of The Republic" he wrote "Unknown Christmas Song." Then there was from Mark Linett (found here- www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=49780, in regards to Steve Hoffman's mastering of Pet Sounds: "You may prefer the DCC version, but it was not xfrd flat in spite of what Steve Hoffman claims. On the contrary imo and knowing what the flat tape sounds like, the DCC version is actually the most re-equalised version ever issued. No version of Pet Sounds has ever been released without equalisation and theat includes the original mono lp in 1966. Hope that helps clear things up...... Mark My final attempt at clearing up some incorrect "facts" about the various Pet Sounds releases: 1- I'm not implying it, it is a fact. The DCC version is not a flat xfr and if it were there wouldn't be any "Hoffman" tape to use (why use a "flat" copy from DCC when we already have lots of flat copies made in 1966). The flat master does not sound like the DCC release, which is fine. If you like the DCC CD then it may be a great mastering job, but it most certainly is not a flat xfr. 2- Hoffman's tape would be a heavily eqd copy and while some listeners prefer the sound of it, Brian does not. 3-There is no noise reduction on the boxset and there couldn't be any because it was mastered at Capitol and at the time they didn't have a No Noise system. We'd stopped using No Noise by then anyway. The Smile tracks were for the most part new mixes that I did for the boxset because no original mixes could be found. The alternate version of Heroes & Villains is from a safety copy of that mix which isn't all that great sounding, but it is all we had. I'm not sure where this "LA master" thing comes from. The tape we used in 1987 for the 1st CD was Brian's original master and as is the custom was labelled the master for Pet Sounds. The NY copy was used in 1992 and 1996 (etc) when the original master vanished from Capitol. As to the intros, I don't recall on which songs or on which CDs we used new quieter copies of the intros taken from the multi-tracks, but in any case noise reduction was not used except on the 1990 CD. Mark That clears up the whole issue of the "LA tape" - this information came from Brad Elliott, who apparently mistakenly believed that the Capitol master was a copy of Brian's master - but the LA tape IS Brian's master! Which makes sense, because wasn't it the practice for Capitol to keep and store all the Beach Boys masters (LP's and singles) that it released? Brian kept the multitracks, unreleased songs and alternate mixes. This means that the New York tape was basically a "flat transfer" of the master. I'm surprized that Brian didn't keep a safety copy of the master - but maybe he did and that was what went missing. I know exactly what a flat xfr means and the DCC release does not sound like the flat master tape which is what it should sound like if Hoffman mastered it that way. BTW the boxset master was made using an ATR-100 and tube electronics . In addition the desriptionabove makes no sense since an ATR-100 is a tapedeck and so is an A-80. They can't have used both, but either way my ears tell me that the DCC CD is anything but flat nor should it be since no version of the album including the original vinyl was ever made from a flat xfr. end of discussion please." I think the "armchair quarterbacking" comes from those who take umbrage with the consistent insinuations by Mr. Linett that any Beach Boys product he is not involved with is not up to snuff. Of course, this is no indication that the imminent release of SMiLE will be mishandled in any way, but I can see why some might be skeptical of Mr. Linett. GetHappy!!, Apr 3, 2011 #791
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Post by audiopro on Aug 22, 2020 23:23:51 GMT
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Post by Felonious Spunk on Aug 22, 2020 23:52:05 GMT
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I always thought the “Brian doesn’t like it” line about the DCC seedee was odd. I have a hard time believing Brian was sitting around having shootouts of every damn Beach Boys disc they crapped out, especially as crispy as that dude is. There’s a handful of artists I think probably do this (Neil Young, for one) but even in his prime I just don’t think this was his speed.
And Linett hiding behind Brian every time his involvement is criticized is hilarious. The world of oldies reissues sure attracts a lot of fragile egos. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 22:36:13 GMT
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