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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 1:06:07 GMT
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Post by mudflapslim on Oct 1, 2019 2:36:40 GMT
That fuckhead started mooching free stuff at a young age, pal.
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Post by bad gateway on Oct 1, 2019 4:05:25 GMT
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Post by krabapple on Oct 1, 2019 5:08:25 GMT
Jane, stop this crazy Hoffman.
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Post by Aural Relations on Oct 1, 2019 8:16:27 GMT
This is the most STeVE post I've ever read. Indistinguishable from the ramblings I'd hear at a geriatric home; I guess long-term memories really are the last things to go.
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Post by daved on Oct 1, 2019 10:01:37 GMT
I love how he's skeptical of kid's parents working for Hanna-Barbera but he expects everyone to believe his bullshit stories.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 11:17:20 GMT
I love how he's skeptical of kid's parents working for Hanna-Barbera but he expects everyone to believe his bullshit stories. Steve really does think the pop culture universe revolves around him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 11:31:34 GMT
STeVe collects guitars, pianos, stolen master tapes, and now animation cells?
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Post by daved on Oct 1, 2019 11:56:46 GMT
I hated The Jetsons.
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Oct 1, 2019 12:26:38 GMT
♩ ♪ ♫ ♬ His boy BOVA.
Daughter GRANTY.
CLAUS, his wife. ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Oct 1, 2019 21:59:15 GMT
Oh, STeVE, you name-dropping, misspelling, lying piece of shit. First of all, it’s animation CEL (one L). Anyone who collects the damn things would know that. Like all of STeVE’s bullshit stories, the details change every time he tells them. The guy Dan Finnerty shows up at IMDb as someone would had worked at HB in the 1960s. But, look how STeVE mentions two kids who had dads who were editors at HB: someone named Bradley, plus Dan Finnerty(? – maybe Dan Finnerty Jr.?). Also, keep an eye on STeVE’s fluctuating age – the kid Bradley was first a kindergarten classmate, and later became a grade-school classmate. (Note: the HB shows STeVE mentions were all produced circa 1958-1960. If Daddy was born in 1954 like it is generally surmised, he would have been in kindergarten around 1959 or1960.) Anyway, here are the results of a quick search: March 10, 2010: This is freaking me out. Even as a little kid I knew that an ancient WB or MGM cartoon was years better but I loved those Hanna Barbera cartoons like crazy. So, yesterday my six year old came home from the library with this double DVD called "Saturday Morning Cartoons". No other markings on it except that it is a legit WB DVD. So, I was curious as to what was on it. First disk started with (much to my surprise) a complete color episode of TOP CAT. Hadn't seen it in 45 years. This was the first time in color. Looked right from the camera negative as well (not the opening and close, those looked like an optical 35mm print). The sound on the body of the show was total hi-fi, obviously from the original magnetic mix. I sat and watched some of it. It was pretty funny. Last time I had seen TOP CAT it was on my parents black & white Packard-Bell TV and JFK was in the White House. I was curious if my kids (6 & 2) would be interested at all in this "simple" style of cartoon. THEY WERE RIVETED. Totally absorbed in this. It must have been incomprehensible to them, having never seen Sgt. Bilko or anything like it. They loved it. So, they watched more on disk one: an ATOM ANT, MAGILLA GORILLA, etc. Just random HB cartoons thrown on there. Most were pretty colorful looking and had great sound (except for the intros and outros, those negatives must have been pitched at one time, only saving the actual body of the cartoons, why, don't know). Seeing TOP CAT all of a sudden on our giant 60" screen was pretty odd to me. I remembered how much I loved those backgrounds that seemed to be all sponge and paint (know what I'm talking about?) The kids loved these things. This afternoon we tried disk two, the first thing on there is the pilot episode of THE JETSONS from 1962 (the one where they found Rosie). I remember watching this with my parents on ABC TV when I was a squirt and it was weird to see it again after 48 years. The intro was optical and OK but when the body of the show started it switched over to state of the art picture and sound which really floored me. Freaked me out, actually. State of the art as can be expected for this type of thing. In the first five minutes of THE JETSONS we knew they had 3-D television and that George worked as a Digital Index Operator. My two year old is still riveted to this JETSONS thing, it must be Greek to him but he is digging it. Watching the end credits I'm reminded of the great Pete and Conte Candoli. I got to know Pete in the 1980's and loved to hear him talk about recording all the Hanna Barbera themes. They had orders to "Jazz It Up" as much as they could. So cool. My personal favorite old HB cartoon is RUFF & REDDY. I haven't seen one in 50 years but as a little kid who could barely turn on the TV, I remember the "Ruff & Reddy Show" on NBC on Saturday morning. It was hosted by a guy with a puppet parrot on one side of him and some other puppet on the other side of him. This guy introduced the cartoons. All I really remember about RUFF & REDDY was that they had a friend, Professor Gizmo and he had a big mustache and a machine that could bore a hole in solid rock. One other thing I remember was that they went to outer space once. That's all my memory banks contain. Huckleberry Hound began broadcasting the next year on KTTV at like 7:00 at night (was it a Tuesday night?) I do remember that the dog was the voice of Huckleberry Hound and the cat was the voice of Dixie the Mouse (or was it Pixie?) I knew the same guys did the voices. I might have been four but I wasn't stupid. Then QUICK DRAW McGRAW started on KTTV on Monday nights and I was in heaven. "Brought to you by KELLOGG'S!" I love the stuff up until around 1964. Two things happened to dilute the brand name. First, they stopped using that thick ink line and adapted the Xerox machine to copy a thin animator's pencil line on to the cell. Second, they moved into that new building and hired a bunch of staff. H&B couldn't do everything so they delegated. Big mistake. The charm was gone. But, almost anything up until 1964 was pretty good. Many famous names in Hollywood animation worked there in the early years. A guy had to eat! I confess I'm feeling nostalgic for this stuff. I never was a fan of limited animation but when the script is good it makes it worth while. Can't wait to see what else is on this set but if I see Baba Looey after 50 years I might have a breakdown! Four years later, STeVE quotes himself with his typical “this”...: March 22, 2014: Hey, neat! Did STeVE actually get his cels right from Joe Barbera? Looks that way now! Dec, 19, 2006: Re: Joseph Barbera RIP Met them both in 1966 when I was a kid, got a pile of neat cells as well. A school friend's father was an editor there (Dan Finnerty) and was working on Secret Squirrel at the time... RIP. March 27, 2010: Yes, both Daws Butler's love child. I guess Yacky Doodle, etc. came in on the Yogi Bear show. In Kindergarten there was a kid in the class named Bradley and his dad worked at Hanna-Barbera. Brad brought in to school one day 8 animation cells in mats. He had Yogi, Huckleberry Hound, Pixie & Dixie, etc. I was shocked that they were in color (having only seen them in monochrome). It was astounding that Huckleberry Hound was BLUE and that Snagglepus was PINK and Quick Draw McGraw was WHITE. I guess that started me down the road collecting animation cells. I never forgot those H-B cells in their little mats (obviously not, it's been 48 years). December 11, 2004: When I was in grade school (back in the stone age) my little buddy's dad was an editor at HB. I used to watch for his name to go by during the end credits: Dan Finnerty. He actually gave me a bunch of "cells" of Secret Squirrel (which is the only reason I even remember it!) April 17, 2008: Warning, name dropping post below... Wow, looking at the above list I got to meet every one of the Nine Old Men except John Lounsbery and Les Clark. 7 out of 9 isn't bad. An advantage of living in LA and hanging out with animation lovers and Disney artists like Hans Bacher, Howard Lowery etc. I used to collect animation art in the 1970's-80's until it got too crazy money-like. When an original cell from ALICE IN WONDERLAND jumped from 200 bucks to 2,000 bucks overnight it was time to stop collecting. Leonard Maltin's cartoon tribute nights back then let us meet up close all of the Disney legends that were still alive. Leonard's book OF MICE AND MAGIC was one of the first to concentrate on Animation as an art form.. I feel honored to have met these talented artists. I think they were overwhelmed to have been "rediscovered" in the 1980's by the fans. I'm glad they did; they worked under anonymity for too long behind the walls. I also met Grim Natwick (who drew SNOW WHITE and BETTY BOOP) at a ASIFA-Hollywood meeting in LA in 1977. He was an old man but was still drawing. June Foray brought him down. Heck, thinking about it, the ASIFA meetings allowed us fans to meet most of the living cartoon makes of the vintage era plus the current crop of talents. We met "Tex" Avery in 1977 as well. How? Found his name in the Yellow Pages and just called him up one day. Told us to come on down and chat. Same for Chuck Jones, another childhood hero. Just called him up, same for Friz Freeling. That worked great, so we did the same (I mean my girlfriend Terra and I) to the old fogies who worked at Hanna-Barbara as well including Bill and Joseph, Harry Love and the Columbia/Screen Gems-MGM crowd that had not retired yet and were still keeping a hand in at H-B. Shook hands with Daws Butler and Don Messick, two of my idols from childhood. They loved to talk about the good old days, especially when I asked about the departed legends such as Bill Tytla and Ub Iwerks. The director of Snow White (David Hand) I didn't even know was still alive (he died in 1986). No Internet back then to find anyone, all there was consisted of the Yellow Pages and word of mouth. Ah, the good old phone book. One day standing outside of Collectors' Book Store on Hollywood Blvd. in 1978 I ran into Mel Blanc, recognized him immediately. Couldn't believe my good fortune. He had a bunch of cells and drawings from WB that he wanted to sell to Howard Lowery. That was a thrill, he looked 100 but still had that great voice. He was amazed that this long-haird kid knew even who he was. I guess most of these artists from the golden age of animation are gone now. It's a shame but at least their work lives. I liked this one because of how STeVE admonishes someone for not knowing the right terms, yet he continuously spells cel with two Ls... July 24, 2007: Let's get our terms straight. The IB seps were used to do the 1993 version. Those are B&W NEGATIVE film. They blend together to make the color positive. Instead of going to all of that trouble, if they had just saved their archive "Do Not Project" 35mm interpositive in the first place they could have just used that; it was true Technicolor. It's like a record company destroying the original mixes but saving the multi-tracks. Then, for the 1993 version they went and digitally REMOVED all of the dust photographed from the cells rendering the film too soft. Geez, No-Noise for movies; that sucks! Heck, when I was in Jr. High in Audio-Visual we used to project true IB Technicolor 16mm prints of Snow White, Fantasia, etc. all the time. Who knew that these would be the last accurate versions of these famous films? Bummer. Jared, Sorry, you didn't get an answer to your original question. I don't know of a site that goes into Disney restorations at all. This guy might know: www.widescreenmuseum.com/index.htm
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Oct 1, 2019 22:11:46 GMT
OK, I just noticed that in the Hoffman quote from the OP, that Bradley kid brought in Flintstones cels for show and tell... (Earlier tellings had him bringing in HB cels from the late 50s. This is the first time STeVE mentioned a show that was produced in the 60s...)
Yet another ever-changing detail from a Hoffman anecdote...l
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