Did Geoff Emerick Pull a “STeVe”?

Is that's when they played Besame Mucho on acid for several hours with members of Grateful Dead until George Martin walked out? Sounds interesting.

Syd Barrett was present too. He played a wild one note solo for 63 minutes before going catatonic...

This revelation could mean that Lewishon has to re-think and subsequently re-write the entire second leg of the biography. Adding another decade to the likely release date. Darn!

Maybe ‘Carnival of Light’ will be on the tape! Cool!
:—)

Also, it would be interesting if this contains an early attempt at PS Love Me Do.

Apparently someone randomly shouts "Barcelona!" throughout the jam.

Of the Beatles doing a hitherto unknown medley titled The Inner Carnival of Light.

Does the 1963 jam tape include the early demo version of "Carnival of Light"?

I bet the skiffle version really jams.

I tweeted the The Sun link to Mark Lewisohn.

It must have been an early run-through of Carnival of Light. When they recorded it again in '67, they made sure George was on vacation

This Carnival Of Light jokes surely became tiresome and unfunny.

Nah. Not until the trifecta of Purdie and "not even the best drummer in The Beatles" gets dragged out again.

You forgot "the trousers".

Or it's the secret Bernard Purdie session.

Or maybe in an alternate universe circa 1994


Paul`: Geoff when are you gonna give over that early tape of us messing about, Geoff I already told you if we used it, I'll get you, we said -£70 grand it was.

Geoff- well right Paul, about that, perhaps you and I could just have a private word And clarify about the

George H.- Jeez Paul we'll give em-£20 grand, lucky he's not in Wormwood Scrubs, Geoff twenty that's it, you nicked it , true you saved it, but with selfish reasons and

Geoff- 'heated' it's not 1968 anymore Georgie talk to me in a civil tone or I'll

DOOR OPENS

George Martin- "adjusts hearing aids" ah boys, not interrupting am I ? Everything alright in here `Ringo says Tea downstairs

George H. - Righto Sir George, tell Ringo not to steal my cup, (glaring) we'll finish this later

Paul-oh George always serious lately, nice cuppa tea, oh I nearly forgot , Mary brought you a nice tea from the far east , with licorice I think

Footsteps receding down hallway, chuckles, surprise, George Martin, hurry boys it's still hot

The next time Geoffrey Giuliano is alive, the Times can hire him as a consultant.

Source is “ The Daily Mail “

It's a steady job, but the journo probably wants to be a paperback writer.

Maybe if it's a jam based on Bip Bop no one wants it, and a special EPA crew should dispose of it safely.

On a plus side, we know Yoko is not on the tape.

And Paul can make it a 33 minute cd and package it up with some Linda photos with a book printed in China and sell it for $600!


Beave

Either way - Paul will end up owning it

Does this have the early version of Free as a Bird on it?

I agree with JWB. Paul will swoop in and buy it. 5 mil is chump change to him. Besides, it’s part of his legacy.

"Safeguarded". This means stole EMI property. If he were alive today he'd be arrested.

I did not think they recorded at EMI Studio, or was that Abbey Road? I would think if it was 1962 that that would have been during the Decca era. Maybe that was a copy that they sent to Joe Meek?

Watch for it to vanish. The reels were EMI property. You can't take recorded material they own home with you and keep them. UMG will apply a big choke hold.

Mmmmmm... This discovery comes 3 years shy of the 60th anniversary of the LP Please Please Me. How about happy coincidence?

UMG will crush. MCA lawyers from decades ago were destroyers of even film and TV actors and producers. The record division was just the same. In-house guys. Ask Nick Drake's estate. UMG is huge.

It will go up for auction in London then pulled by UMG on the first day. They own the reels.

How do you know George Martin & Paul McCartney didn't stop Geoff Emerick walking down the hallway, in the direction of the trash bin, or furnace. Because they noticed the reel Emerick was carrying. At that point, after examining the reel, Martin says "Say Geoff why don't you save this for now, take it home for now, for safekeeping. Over the next week or two, I might have you run it by the house, or have Judy pick it up. Or I may need it for Beechwood & Ardmore to run a copy, we'll discuss it later"

He STOLE them from EMI. Get a clue, UMG will crush ANY auction of these reels immediately. How difficult is it understand some young employee walking out of Abbey Road with EMI's reels is THEFT. I'm surprised UMG hasn't served papers now for their property. They must be going nuts at UMG. I wonder what auction house takes the catalog and advertising bath listing these things and the UMG pull? Heritage? Julian's?

Please continue with your legal theories.

No court is going to rule that the tapes belong to the Emerick estate. Who paid for them: EMI. Who dictated policy on them: EMI.
Who did Emerick work for: EMI. Who DIDNT give them to Geoff Emerick as a gift: EMI

UMG's lawyers know how to pursue this.

I wouldn't be surprised if this tape is just a copy of the Love Me Do acetate released on Anthology 1 that the estate isn't familiar with.

You're probably the man to ask around here, do you know or suspect anything about this tape? Any rumours floating around yet?

The feeling is that the tape reel has something like "unreleased Beatles session June 2, 1962" written on it or it's box sometime in the early 90s and that it's just Love Me Do and Besame Mucho. The stories about Geoff stealing it or saving a jam session are just untrue, journalistic invention. Don't be surprised if that's the case.

Maybe it was Emerick that stole Mal's suitcase and the tape was in there.

I have it on authority that the tape contains 15 complete takes of The Sheik of Araby.

(Not 'arf! :righton:)

If you go on a tour of Abbey Road today and you see a reel of tape in the garbage, can you take that tape and walk out with it? No, you cant.

No auction site is going to touch them. No chance! The loss of a catalog and prepping and destroying the lead item in a major auction is overwhelming. UMG will come knocking. He stole them plain and simple. Mal Evans, jesus, I met him at Beatlefest '75 and he was complaining Paul dumped him as a potential security guy for his Aussie tour. He was mumbling and hard to understand. What a piece of work but he signed my Help LP.

Auction houses have lawyers that contact the original property owners. Some bafoon put Madonna's stolen diaries on eBay and got Grubman'd real quick. He was back to listing 33 DVD's. Hey Feedbag did you listen to Peter Noone on Coast To Coast telling him that played on "Misery"?Check the podcast. UMG will crush. MCA crushed James Garner and Garner won.....less than he wanted and about 10 years of legal fees. These guys are smart and Grubman'd.

Hey Feedbag, looks like UMG is as right as I am. Stolen. Nice try. Carol Kaye already said she came up with the Midnight Confessions riff on camera in the Wrecking Crew motion picture and got beat out of the composer royalties like Sonny Bono jacking her on "The Beat Goes On". Nice try. "Autograph hound". No, those are fat guys with bags of stuff pestering at hotels and clubs and restaurants that resell on eBay. I got lots of Lennon autographs through the mail '76-'80. I guess I did pester him with a self addressed stamped envelopes. Peter Noone Coast To Coast 2 weeks ago: "Vic Flick told me it was he on "Misery". Munch. UMG ended this Emerick thing.

Hi guys! I am a cousin of Geoff. It is the missing tape from 06.06.62 and that was Geoff's second day at work. This is sickening for us, it's pure corporate greed for Universal to say they owe nothing to Geoff for preserving the tape! He was a Great man.

If the tape in question is two track, THAT would be a major, major find. Beatlemaniacs the world over would line up to buy a CD of that session.

What a crazy story/event! It seems obvious that the Emerick Estate has no legal basis for keeping/selling/using the tape in question. It was never Geoff's property to begin with, whether he took it from EMI or "found" it in the bin. For a fan this is another holy grail.... that being, tracks known to have been recorded at Abbey Road Studios, but having never been heard before (PS I Love You and Ask Me Why). The question is why did Geoff himself choose to use only Besame Mucho for Sessions? I'm guessing because the other tracks were later re-recorded, but what an opportunity. It's important to remember that he expressed negative thoughts about the whole Sessions project (even though he agreed to remix the album and was paid to do so), so perhaps he was inclined to use just a small example of their pre-Ringo work? Thing is, a decade later the other two songs would have been prime contender for Anthology. I find their exclusion surprising considering he had the tape at his disposal. Ron

Perhaps, but it seems unlikely that the British courts would side with the Emerick Estate in this matter. If Geoff was alive he could have said he "found" the tape amongst his possessions and had no recollection of how this came to be. He would have just returned the tape to the official archives. I'm not sure what legal standing the Estate has in this matter. If you know some relevant court matter that is favorable to the Estate I'd appreciate it. It just seems legally dubious. If someone stole or found an original Renoir in their late father's navy trunk, would that estate have the right to sell it because it was found amongst his possessions? Or would it likely have to be returned to the Renoir estate or a museum which curates his art? Ron

Little joke there. There are always other tapes. Like say the Now & Then tape he ran off a copy with All for Love.

There are always more tapes than people ever know. Practically every sound engineer I've ever met, runs quick copies of anything he/she is fond of, finds interesting, it's what they do after all.

But it was a joke.

Sorry guys I've been really busy with work! We really want to get Paul McCartney involved somehow but we just don't know the best way to do it, can anyone help?

He's aware of the case.

According to the fine print of that contract, Brian promised to find them work, and in exchange they would keep their trousers ever so tight...

Before it's too late, wouldn't it be cool to have Hank Marvin and Jeff Beck join Paul and Ringo on an instrumental version of "Catswalk", made to have a similar flavour to the original guitar-based iteration of the tune?

My personal thought, which may not matter much to folks who love the group in mono, is that IF the actual Two Track Session tape from 6.6.1962 was ever recovered , that UMG suddenly has Besame Mucho, Love Me Do, and PS I Love you in True Stereo After 57 years. Which would leave only She Loves You and I'll Get You as the "lost" Beatles Stereo Masters. Unless, of course, the tape is a mono copy.

Assuming that Universal prevail in this legal action, I think the best thing to do would be to put together a collector's set with all of the "Pete on drums" tracks that can be tracked down (live and studio, BBC, bootlegs, Decca, EMI and Polydor et cetera) and let Ringo have the honours of naming the package!

You know, thats a pretty cool idea. Call it (of course) "Best and The Beatles"

"He's Best but I'm Better!"