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Post by kingdiamond on Mar 4, 2021 10:09:13 GMT
I never got the appeal of Van Morrison at all. Even without the non-compliant doucheness, his voice and the way he "emotes" is like nails on chalkboard for me. I had a handful of Van albums years ago and dumped them all. I don't think I ever made it through all of Astral Weeks. What a tedious album that is, right up there with "classic" albums like Bitches Brew and Sgt Pepper. Sometimes, I'm thankful to have shitty taste in music.
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Post by darthparrox on Mar 15, 2021 20:00:25 GMT
I never got the appeal of Van Morrison at all. Even without the non-compliant doucheness, his voice and the way he "emotes" is like nails on chalkboard for me. I had a handful of Van albums years ago and dumped them all. I don't think I ever made it through all of Astral Weeks. What a tedious album that is, right up there with "classic" albums like Bitches Brew and Sgt Pepper. Sometimes, I'm thankful to have shitty taste in music. Not to repeat myself but try Them. As good as Stooges and big influence of Iggy's vocal delivery.
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Post by Chicken in Black on Mar 15, 2021 20:14:21 GMT
And with less frontal nudity.
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Post by mintyjackhole on Mar 19, 2021 4:19:07 GMT
Richard Davis' bass in a more folk context will never not be cool to me. I just treat Van's vocals as another instrument. I'm sure I'd be horrified if I still paid attention to the lyrics.
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Post by GeddyLeePierce on Mar 19, 2021 6:08:28 GMT
Astral Weeks is one of the very few albums my wife ever yelled at me to shut off. True story.
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Post by Potsie Hoofman on Mar 19, 2021 9:07:25 GMT
Astral Weeks is pure garbage, though. It's like Donovan with Tourette Syndrome. Why does anyone rate this masturbatory nonsense? Even Lester Bangs got all blubbery over this shit album. That was always Lester's worst tendency, when he was stoned and feeling guilty and maudlin for not being the mama's boy that his Romilar-fueled bad trip was telling him he ought to be, so he puked out some pompous shit crying "oh, the humanity" and praising cheapjack psuedo-emotional hippie tosh like Astral Weeks. These embarrassing moments were the very thing that "convinced" culturally conservative sentimental suckers like Greil Marcus that Lester was just a big furry teddy bear after all, i.e. "one of us." Gag me. This was quite the review in and of itself. At least the most interesting one I've seen in a long time.
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Post by graucho on Mar 19, 2021 13:25:16 GMT
Astral Weeks is pure garbage, though. It's like Donovan with Tourette Syndrome. brilliant!
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Post by essayceedee on Mar 19, 2021 13:25:42 GMT
Meh, I still love it. When it comes to "classic" albums I'm much more inclined to listen to Ramones, Trout Mask Replica or Fun House, but I discovered Astral Weeks at an impressionable young age and it's always been a favorite. I'm approximately 0% "spiritual" so the lyrics don't mean shit to me.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Mar 19, 2021 13:57:47 GMT
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Mar 19, 2021 14:48:48 GMT
That sounds like it'd be right up my alley.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Mar 19, 2021 15:03:27 GMT
That sounds like it'd be right up my alley. I've been reading up about that album and the one before it (Beautiful Vision), and it seems like Van's had some very dubious opinions going back 40-odd years. He seems to have taken the racial evolution aspects of Alice Bailey's writing (at its most basic level, that Aryans are racially superior) without any of the subtext and applied it as a philosophy that underpinned his work around then. There's a choice quote here which sounds pretty UKIP, 25 years before they existed. "It's important for people to get into the music of their own culture... I think it can be dangerous to not validate the music of where you're from, for anybody, whether it's Bulgaria or whatever."
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Mar 19, 2021 15:10:21 GMT
Just to be clear, I can't even name ten Van Morrison songs. But the idea of going "through one miserable album after another" just sounds like the perverted sort of pleasure that I've been subjecting myself to lately.
Actually, for my upcoming Ronnie Wood playlists, there is a session with Van and Lonnie Donegan.
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Post by graucho on Mar 19, 2021 15:57:12 GMT
He's someone I used to have a lot of listening time for, but rarely do now. I don't know anything he's done (album or tracks-wise) since about 1990, and have a sneaking suspicion that, a bit like Neil Young - the past 25 years or so have not yielded such great music from the man.
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Post by Last Rock Hope on Mar 19, 2021 17:02:01 GMT
I love Van Morrison's music but he's pretty much always been an asshole.
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Post by darthparrox on Mar 25, 2021 15:23:46 GMT
Meh, I still love it. When it comes to "classic" albums I'm much more inclined to listen to Ramones, Trout Mask Replica or Fun House, but I discovered Astral Weeks at an impressionable young age and it's always been a favorite. I'm approximately 0% "spiritual" so the lyrics don't mean shit to me. One of two solo Van albums i care about after Them - AW and St. Dominic's Preview. The rest are easy listening garbage for me.
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