bradman
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Post by bradman on Mar 6, 2021 15:54:21 GMT
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Post by essayceedee on Mar 6, 2021 16:10:11 GMT
My favorite English Beat member.
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Post by Burnie ‘ceedee’ Grungeman on Mar 7, 2021 2:55:43 GMT
Of course Arnold Grove makes yet another closeted remark in an attempt at humor, that is far more a reflection of his inner thoughts. Just come out, Arnold. Your trousers will thank you.
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Post by Sanjay Gupton on Mar 8, 2021 0:54:07 GMT
I thought I was gonna get the English Beat thing in, too. Now all I guess there is of the low hanging fruit is, “how high does Fat Bottom Girls rank?”
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Post by bradman on Mar 9, 2021 1:42:16 GMT
Rfreeman offered his rankings. Like most, Ringo's Roto-Rooter made his top 10.
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Post by hugofuguzev on Mar 9, 2021 6:23:04 GMT
I've never really ranked Ringo as a drummer- it's telling that George Martin brought in a ringer for "Love Me Do", McCartney would re-do the drum tracks himself on occasion and guys like Jim Keltner do most of the heavy lifting on Ringo's 'best' solo work. Ringo's secret was turning his ineptitude as a drummer into an entire style of drumming.
Mind ya, given how ol' Ritchie used to beat his women in coke and alcohol hazes I don't really rank him as a human being, either.
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Post by bradman on Mar 9, 2021 10:40:50 GMT
Beaucoups of Booze.
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Post by daved on Mar 9, 2021 11:00:37 GMT
I've never really ranked Ringo as a drummer- it's telling that George Martin brought in a ringer for "Love Me Do", McCartney would re-do the drum tracks himself on occasion and guys like Jim Keltner do most of the heavy lifting on Ringo's 'best' solo work. Ringo's secret was turning his ineptitude as a drummer into an entire style of drumming. Ya not to get all SHitey but this is a giant load of horse shit right here. If there's one thing I learned to appreciate it's Ringo's drumming. |
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Post by hugofuguzev on Mar 9, 2021 13:11:37 GMT
I've never really ranked Ringo as a drummer- it's telling that George Martin brought in a ringer for "Love Me Do", McCartney would re-do the drum tracks himself on occasion and guys like Jim Keltner do most of the heavy lifting on Ringo's 'best' solo work. Ringo's secret was turning his ineptitude as a drummer into an entire style of drumming. Ya not to get all SHitey but this is a giant load of horse shit right here. If there's one thing I learned to appreciate it's Ringo's drumming. Yeah, yer right, Dave- a little over the top with my assessment of Ringo, that's my anti-Beatle bias talking. Gotta give him his due for being a southpaw playing a right handed kit and making it work. |
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Post by powerpoppackage on Mar 9, 2021 13:30:24 GMT
This guy sucks at drums because he didn't quite nail it on his first time in a professional recording studio and they brought in a ringer once almost 60 years ago. Come on, man, this is M****l-level stuff. You're probably right that he's an asshole, though.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 9, 2021 14:12:47 GMT
Ringo was good as a drummer, and that was fine till he started singing and making movies. He sucked at that.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Mar 10, 2021 6:01:46 GMT
if we must.... Ringo was a great drummer from 1962–1966. He really played to the song, more than any other pop drummer at the time. You can listen to his playing in any given song of that era as a complete performance, full of surprises and twists, with absolutely no extraneous, showboating nonsense that many of his contemporaries relied on to cover up their musical shortcomings. Ringo (like the entire band) goes downhill from there; is at best perfunctory in 1967/68 (I don't blame him for being bored with a lot of the songs he was made to play on, though), and he's positively dull as a dishrag by 1969, ending up as a Levon Helm imitator, of all things, complete with shitty Levon Helm drum tone. After 1969 he is a contemptible all-around buffoon, both as a drummer (when he even bothered to try to play) and as a "personality." I'd be more generous. After the Beatles, his solo career was initially a novelty with a few good singles. His drumming on the Plastic Ono Band album was as good as anything he did. The real downhill was when he started with the Ringo album. I won't knock that album at all, especially if it was a one off, balls out all star affair. Producer Richard Perry must have known something too. He would ask Ringo to play drums for his various projects around the time (which I think is how he connected to Harry Nilsson). And that's what he should have kept with. Or joined a band. Or retired or whatever. The Mark Hudson albums managed to capture something. He was back at the drum kit playing with a real band. And thanks to a team of songwriters, the music was good. At least until the Beatles references started creeping in. And then it devolved back into the Ringo personality show.
You know what, fucking kudos to Bill Wyman for forming a band post-Stones. Aside from naming the group after himself, he did little more than play bass (he'd sing some songs too but few and far between.)
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Post by daved on Mar 10, 2021 9:35:05 GMT
Ringo was good as a drummer, and that was fine till he started singing and making movies. He sucked at that. Yes, don’t get me wrong. I’m defending Beatles era Ringo. As Hoffa said, POB is insane. Then he becomes drunk celebrity Ringo. |
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Mar 11, 2021 23:08:52 GMT
Yeah, I'll give him Plastic Ono Band. Both Lennon and Ono's. That was his last hurrah as an actual musician, I think, and definitely the last time he challenged himself as a drummer. After that, alcoholic oblivion and a lifetime of unbearable buffoonery beckoned. Did he even attempt to play after that? Seems the most he did was tap out a time-keeping rhythm while session hacks like Jim Keltner did the actual drumming. Like I mentioned, he's on a bunch of Nilsson songs and other Richard Perry productions. And after that, the drop off in sessions and quality is obvious. Funny how even now, he is often paired with Jim Keltner, like on a few songs for Jenny Lewis' latest. |
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