Gordon haz insider shit, but he's not gona share it with you
May 4, 2022 14:44:43 GMT
Post by absinthefreek on May 4, 2022 14:44:43 GMT
...re: the disappearance of the Hendrix Electric Lady Studios box set, announced in January for release on 25th March 2022, pulled or delayed indefinitely soon after:
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Experiencereunited
Gordon Johnson
Experiencereunited
crickets for a week, then Gordon says
A week later:
Sis+erRay
GJ
Sis+erRay
GJ
Mullin
GJ
Joe F
GJ
Headfone
GJ
Weavzy
GJ
Weavzy
GJ
Headfone
GJ
I guess there will be a lot of people looking at this the same way but there is no validity to the reasoning.
Frip
GJ
Sis+erRay
SteveM
GJ
Healter Skealter
GJ
Sis+erRay
GJ
Healter Skealter
Classicrock
Healter Skealter
Nodeerforamonth
GJ
Oscillation
GJ
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Shepherdfan
GJ
Shepherdfan
Sis+erRay
Cokelike
EdwinM
Healter Skealter
SteveM
Healter Skealter
GJ
GJ
Healter Skealter
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Healter Skealter
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Weavzy
SRC
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Mpayan
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Alan57
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Experiencereunited
I would guess this is related to vinyl backlog issues. Just my guess though. Perhaps they will stagger the CD and Vinyl release again like they did for SFGC. Not a fan of them doing that really
Gordon Johnson
That's not what I hear!
Experiencereunited
So what is the low down then?
crickets for a week, then Gordon says
Wow, things quickly grow legs!
As both myself and Yazid have previously mentioned, the set is delayed. As to the speculation posted for the reason(s) why, as far as I'm aware none have been accurate.
So not cancelled or postponed, simply delayed. If EH/Sony have yet to have been able to deal with the delay how can a new date be available?
As both myself and Yazid have previously mentioned, the set is delayed. As to the speculation posted for the reason(s) why, as far as I'm aware none have been accurate.
So not cancelled or postponed, simply delayed. If EH/Sony have yet to have been able to deal with the delay how can a new date be available?
A week later:
From what I know / been told this delay has bugger all to do with any legal issues. But please, don't let that stop the fantastic speculation as i may have been misinformed of the real delay :shh:
Sis+erRay
So no source apart from your famous 'inside knowledge'. Not surprising.
GJ
That's correct. Some of us know and some of you don't. But because I/we don't have to measure our knowledge or information at your level doesn't mean its inaccurate. I'm not the only person on this board with this information. Its been a topic well discussed in a number of circles, circles you clearly do not have access to
Sis+erRay
In other words: I (pretend to) know something you don't know but I won't tell you because causing other forum members to beg for more makes me feel better.
GJ
Who's begging? You?
I doubt I'd throw you bone
In other words, try reading and quoting the my full post: "
Would love to but its not my call to be open about all of this.
I doubt I'd throw you bone
In other words, try reading and quoting the my full post: "
Would love to but its not my call to be open about all of this.
Mullin
My order is still waiting on Amazon.... I think it has to do with the lawsuits filed against EH, that's why it's on hold....
GJ
What's the reasoning behind you thinking that is the reason for the delay?
Joe F
Must has something to do backlogs at the vinyl manufacturing plant
What's the reasoning?
Headfone
The delay is almost certainly due to pending litigation. What a drag.
What leads you to conclude thus?
Weavzy
Gordo,
I enjoy your contributions to Jimi threads, but youve been playing a bit of a "I know something you dont know" tease/game on here in regards to this release. Not sure its fair you asking people for their 'reasoning' when you yourself refuse to divulge any sort of information or reason you claim to be in possession of.
I enjoy your contributions to Jimi threads, but youve been playing a bit of a "I know something you dont know" tease/game on here in regards to this release. Not sure its fair you asking people for their 'reasoning' when you yourself refuse to divulge any sort of information or reason you claim to be in possession of.
I recall the SACD delay, I didn't say anything then, as we waited. I don't feel its my place to say tbh. EH and /or Sony are the o es who need to step up and be honest, it really wouldn't hurt them at all.
Is it fair to ask why members are making a claim through a post? Yes it is.
Is it fair to ask why members are making a claim through a post? Yes it is.
Direct info is not his strong point.
GJ
Maybe you are not keeping up and relying on this forum to deliver all of your Hendrix information! Its a site that has openly discouraged questions and shows a debate cannot be undertaken without folk being personal in their comment, hence a lot of reluctance to openly share [at least here] any valid information. That said, its not my place to share the reasoning behind the delay; That is a point for EH / Sony to address yet given how they themselves have never made a release announcement I find it difficult to think they would issue a delay statement either.
I will point out, I've not been posting any claims on the delay, simply pointing out those that have been presented are off the mark. I'm more than happy for you or anyone to conclude how they see fit. The one thing that is apparent, it wont bring the releases any quicker
I will point out, I've not been posting any claims on the delay, simply pointing out those that have been presented are off the mark. I'm more than happy for you or anyone to conclude how they see fit. The one thing that is apparent, it wont bring the releases any quicker
Headfone
The pulling of the Amazon preorder page coincided, nearly to the day, with the announcement of the Mitchell/Redding lawsuit. My assumption is that Mitchell is featured prominently on these recordings.
Frip
I don't know whether the delay is down to the litigation or not. But it wouldn't just be a question of EH setting aside royalties in case they have to share them. If Sony's lawyers have advised that EH's ownership of the material is uncertain, that may well result in Sony putting things on hold rather than risking getting sued themselves.
GJ
Isn't this how we build those stories and how the very facts get lost?
If's and but's abound and they grow legs and then become "fact" and then on and on ...............................
If a correlation can be found between the streaming royalties issue and the delay can we please show it, other wise its all unsupported / unfounded speculation.
If's and but's abound and they grow legs and then become "fact" and then on and on ...............................
If a correlation can be found between the streaming royalties issue and the delay can we please show it, other wise its all unsupported / unfounded speculation.
Sis+erRay
Gordon 'Pats' Johnson a/k/a 'The Hendrix insider' knows everything about Hendrix and won't tell anyone anything! Apart from the fact that he knows everything, of course
I know nothing about any lawsuits and care even less but this delay has nothing to do with vinyl pressing delays. That doesn't stop the CD release which most of us would want anyway.
Quite often vinyl appears later, after the CD. If anything, a delay in the vinyl could help promote it and boost the demand for the CD set even higher.
Quite often vinyl appears later, after the CD. If anything, a delay in the vinyl could help promote it and boost the demand for the CD set even higher.
GJ
This only "works" if it was a vinyl delay, which it isn't.
Or this only works if its a law suit delay, which it isn't.
Or this only works if its a law suit delay, which it isn't.
Healter Skealter
Enough, sir, of your coquettish teasing. Will you at least do '20 Questions' with us?
It's amazing just how some folk get their knickers in a twist by someone not rolling over for them! Well maybe not amazing rather hilarious.
Such a minor issue to, Lord knows the reaction for something genuinly of importance.
Shame we have a delay, just think of all the crying we're missing out on regards shipping delays, quality or lack of, the content, poor customer service, warped and dished vinyl, off centre pressings and how much better some back bedroom "mastering engineer" could have done. Oh, almost forgot tbe crying about the mix
How cruel is life :wantsome:
Such a minor issue to, Lord knows the reaction for something genuinly of importance.
Shame we have a delay, just think of all the crying we're missing out on regards shipping delays, quality or lack of, the content, poor customer service, warped and dished vinyl, off centre pressings and how much better some back bedroom "mastering engineer" could have done. Oh, almost forgot tbe crying about the mix
How cruel is life :wantsome:
Sis+erRay
Both Gordon Johnson and Pats Radio don't have any inside information apart from their thoughts and feelings they turn into facts, yet keep on teasing other users and pretending to know more than anyone else. Rdiculous. I'm just waiting for Gordon to start spreading theories (he calls facts) about only the US version being AAA again like he did on several other Hendrix releases. :biglaugh:
It's about the feeling to be important/superior and to receive the attention from other users (they don't receive in real life?) who beg them to tell more.
Insiders who know things unknown to the public they don't want to or can't share don't need to constantly remind others that they 'know something'.
It's about the feeling to be important/superior and to receive the attention from other users (they don't receive in real life?) who beg them to tell more.
Insiders who know things unknown to the public they don't want to or can't share don't need to constantly remind others that they 'know something'.
GJ
It's a very small minority, those who want to turn every Hendrix threads into a Gordon Johnson thread, it's rather flattering I suppose!
That's said, for those who do struggle with a few posts from me, we'll you need to understand as to who they are meant for and why they get posted. If that's missed I guess the post is really inclusive of them.
As for the delay, in due course it'll be covered (as boring as it is) once the release is made available
That's said, for those who do struggle with a few posts from me, we'll you need to understand as to who they are meant for and why they get posted. If that's missed I guess the post is really inclusive of them.
As for the delay, in due course it'll be covered (as boring as it is) once the release is made available
Gordon Johnson said: ↑
It's a very small minority, those who want to turn every Hendrix threads into a Gordon Johnson thread
I can think of only one person who wants to do that.
It's a very small minority, those who want to turn every Hendrix threads into a Gordon Johnson thread
I can think of only one person who wants to do that.
Classicrock
So have we established the reason for the delay?
I'm sure if anybody actually knew the reason, they'd have told us by now.
I know. But I'm not telling. I want attention. Maybe you can sign up for another forum and find the info yourself, but I won't tell you what forum.
GJ
Like I've said more than once, it's not my place to say. And yes, I doubt EH or Sony would anything given no official release announcement has been put out!
The irony here is that I've all but told you the reason, folk are too busy looking to carp on about other members here to pick up on that.
The irony here is that I've all but told you the reason, folk are too busy looking to carp on about other members here to pick up on that.
Oscillation
Dude if you have something to actually say just spit it out. Who the heck has time for cloak and dagger nonsense.
GJ
Dude, move on. Same for others as its been made clear I'll mention the delay up front and straight forward as and when.
Sis+erRay
People just need to stop feeding the troll. Encouraging him to give some information (he doesn't have) is exactly what he wants.
Hi Everybody,
I have been asked not to name my source. I can reveal to you that the box is getting delayed to next year. The reason does have to do with the legal tussle going on between Janie and the estates for Mitch and Noel.
I have been asked not to name my source. I can reveal to you that the box is getting delayed to next year. The reason does have to do with the legal tussle going on between Janie and the estates for Mitch and Noel.
Just a question.
If the delay is as you claim and due to the estate being sued by the Mitchell and Redding representatives, why next year? Will all the legal disputes be concluded by then?
If the delay is as you claim and due to the estate being sued by the Mitchell and Redding representatives, why next year? Will all the legal disputes be concluded by then?
Shepherdfan
Hi Gordon,
I have no idea. It's just what I was told.
I have no idea. It's just what I was told.
Sis+erRay
Interesting. Someone else who claims to be a Hendrix insider insisted various times in this thread that this would not be the reason for the delay.
Indeed, more specifically, "this delay has bugger all to do with any legal issues" from what he knows / has been told. :rolleyes:
EdwinM
If it's a legal matter, which is not unlikely, they probably will keep quiet because everything you say can and will be used against you.
Healter Skealter
Yes, but we already have it on the very best authority that it isn't a legal issue...don't we?
SteveM
So do you know what the delay is?
Healter Skealter
No, because while he's happy to tell us what isn't causing the delay, The Oracle won't tell us what is causing it.
GJ
Yep, for 2 reasons, no 3 reasons
One, it's not my place and any comment made is simply to hopefully prevent those rumours that build up.
2. I'm happy not to be arsed telling g a number of folk here what tbe reason is, that is the reason I've been presented with.
3. Its hilarious reading posts such as yours! Funny as you don't have a clue and more so as you feel such post will make me change my mind and say something :ignore:.
One, it's not my place and any comment made is simply to hopefully prevent those rumours that build up.
2. I'm happy not to be arsed telling g a number of folk here what tbe reason is, that is the reason I've been presented with.
3. Its hilarious reading posts such as yours! Funny as you don't have a clue and more so as you feel such post will make me change my mind and say something :ignore:.
GJ
And yet, nothing brings me a bigger smile on tbe forum than to see how much not knowing the reason for a delay is giving you grief and sleepless nights
Healter Skealter
Here's what you should do. You should pm all of us with a password-protected doc containing the reason(s) for the delay. Then, when it's eventually released as it inevitably will be, you can give us the password, so that we can evaluate your reason(s) in the light of what eventually transpires. Sound fair?
GJ
When I do / post a review of the set ill make it clear as to why this was delayed. Maybe by then my informant will be seen to been misleading me:righton:
Clearly the desperation of such a post would indicate that a rats wastepaper is chewing away at you:agree:
Clearly the desperation of such a post would indicate that a rats wastepaper is chewing away at you:agree:
Healter Skealter
aka Gordon's 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card.
If you concede the possibility that your 'informant' might be deceiving you, are you prepared to retract your assertion that the delay is categorically not due to a legal issue?
I can't recall your 2nd 'it's not because of' assertion, but are you prepared to provisionally retract that also?
(I'm getting all eaten up inside here and losing yuuge amounts of sleep, please pray for me everyone)
If you concede the possibility that your 'informant' might be deceiving you, are you prepared to retract your assertion that the delay is categorically not due to a legal issue?
I can't recall your 2nd 'it's not because of' assertion, but are you prepared to provisionally retract that also?
(I'm getting all eaten up inside here and losing yuuge amounts of sleep, please pray for me everyone)
Not sure what yuuge means, do you?
I can only go from source information as like the rest of you, I'm not employed by EH. Yet I'm more confident in my source contacts than I am in lazy speculation or childish snipping. Two things that even grown adults on this forum appear to be afflicted with, fortunately in the minority.
Again, that minority are missing the wood for the trees and it's not only me laughing.
You seem to think this forum is some sort of court and you the judge, jury and executioner! This is so amusing.
You and the others who feel it is so important to your very existence on this planet to want to know the reason for the delayed announcement could always try and contact EH. I'm sure they have their blag blanket comment in place by now whatever it is, it may be enough to sooth your discomfort and aid your sleep pattern.
Now I come to think of it maybe I'll gloss over the delay in the review, knowing life for you will never be the same again is a small pleasure.
I can only go from source information as like the rest of you, I'm not employed by EH. Yet I'm more confident in my source contacts than I am in lazy speculation or childish snipping. Two things that even grown adults on this forum appear to be afflicted with, fortunately in the minority.
Again, that minority are missing the wood for the trees and it's not only me laughing.
You seem to think this forum is some sort of court and you the judge, jury and executioner! This is so amusing.
You and the others who feel it is so important to your very existence on this planet to want to know the reason for the delayed announcement could always try and contact EH. I'm sure they have their blag blanket comment in place by now whatever it is, it may be enough to sooth your discomfort and aid your sleep pattern.
Now I come to think of it maybe I'll gloss over the delay in the review, knowing life for you will never be the same again is a small pleasure.
Weavzy
Gordo,
I personally dont care what you claim to, or think you know. But come on mate.
Your having a go at people on here for acting childish. Yet you're swanning around like an 8 year old big sister whose teasing her little brother that she knows something you dont know. It's nothing short of purile. Not to mention a touch embarrassing.
Any reasonable human knows what the result of gloating about "secret information" has on those around them. People dont like it. That's not a childish response. Its an expected response. At least to anyone with basic social skills.
I personally dont care what you claim to, or think you know. But come on mate.
Your having a go at people on here for acting childish. Yet you're swanning around like an 8 year old big sister whose teasing her little brother that she knows something you dont know. It's nothing short of purile. Not to mention a touch embarrassing.
Any reasonable human knows what the result of gloating about "secret information" has on those around them. People dont like it. That's not a childish response. Its an expected response. At least to anyone with basic social skills.
This dude could have the meaning of life in his "review" and I wouldn't care to read it, based on this last page of posts.
Who gloating? What secret information?
Look, all I did was try and correct, or maybe direct thinking away from the knee jerk reaction posts of some here that mentioned that the reason for any delay was vinyl or legal action etc.
Its not tease , I'll say it again, it's not my place to say.
I'll point out that it is not mewho keeps bringing this up, that's easily checked by reading back a few posts.
If you feel I'm being puerile fine if you feel I'm being unfair, fine
Just stop asking me about something I won't answer.
To be fair, I find the constant crying to be embarrassing. As you claim to not care why post ........ multiple times? You guys are coming across like toddlers at playschool stamping your feet and having little screaming fits.
Come on, grow up. Life ain't always about being able to get what you want when you want it.
Look, all I did was try and correct, or maybe direct thinking away from the knee jerk reaction posts of some here that mentioned that the reason for any delay was vinyl or legal action etc.
Its not tease , I'll say it again, it's not my place to say.
I'll point out that it is not mewho keeps bringing this up, that's easily checked by reading back a few posts.
If you feel I'm being puerile fine if you feel I'm being unfair, fine
Just stop asking me about something I won't answer.
To be fair, I find the constant crying to be embarrassing. As you claim to not care why post ........ multiple times? You guys are coming across like toddlers at playschool stamping your feet and having little screaming fits.
Come on, grow up. Life ain't always about being able to get what you want when you want it.
Every thread with this guy...geesh.
Ive never asked you once. Because I do not believe you know why its been delayed.
No one believes it, except the user himelf.
Alan57
At this point in time maybe take some time out from posting here until you have positive and definite news you are able to share.
Sis+erRay
That means never.