GregM does not want to fuck his daughter

When I say nothing passed the sniff test about Bill and Frank, that doesn't just apply to what I imagine life would be like in the world of TLoU. I think some of the disbelief comes from my personal experience in the pandemic, too. I lost some trust in humanity. When the lockdown was mandated, the governor released a lot of offenders from jail. There was horrible crime not just in my area (several people were shot--mostly for confronting catalytic converter robbers) but on my street, which up until then had been safe.

My neighbor across the street had his truck and trailer stolen from his driveway. My next door neighbor had his car broken into--we think the robber was interrupted. One day I went to empty my trash in the bins on the side of my house and saw two guys trying to get into my back yard. They punched me, pushed me down and ran away. Then on my street corner where a lady and her mother were walking their French bulldog, a stolen car pulled alongside them, 4-5 armed men got out, stole the dog, stole the lady's purse, came back that night since they had her keys and address and stole her car.

That's all small potatoes compared to what horrors exist in TLoU. A realistic version of Bill wouldn't take any chances with someone caught in his spider hole trap. He'd shoot them on sight. It would feel more faithful to that world showing that kind of brutality. Love scenes would have to be done organically and emerge over more time. You say you were expecting Frank to bash Bill over the head while he's playing piano or lying in bed. The only reason I wasn't expecting that is because I recognized the actor from another homosexual role; it took me out of TLoU and into the fact that I was watching a TV show. Didn't ring true at all in the world Druckmann created. Frank's persona was not of that world.

That's not true. I did not give any such point-by-point but generally described it as salacious. Many did not agree and that's fine, but at the very least it was gratuitous and a bit jarring given that no other sexual scenes were shown in TLoU--straight or otherwise--unless you consider the kiss between Ellie and her girlfriend to be sexual. Note that I didn't criticize that even though Ellie is underage.

I have no problem whatsoever with GOT and many other productions indulging in graphic depictions of gay sex when it's warranted and well written in the context of the story. However, the backstory of two irrelevant characters shown in TLoU did not advance the plot whatsoever and therefore is open to criticism. It was shoehorned in.

If I have any obsession with this sort of thing it's with analyzing cultural and social symbolism. An example is Captain Marvel. You may recall treatment of illegal immigrants was in the headlines every day and was written into the plot with the Kree treatment of Skrull. Of course this is not new, but the way Captain Marvel hammered it in a super-preachy way was a bit annoying. I still enjoyed the movie though.

But in Dr Strange, it was all just too much to enjoy. You had nonstop demonic imagery, much revolving around a previously good character in Wanda with a good dream involving motherhood of two boys that was cast as evil. Meanwhile you had a character named America, who was Mexican and had two mothers, cast as the savior of the universe. The cultural messaging was icky, too heavy-handed and unnecessary.

Gay brown folks are icky, you heard it here first.

I married a lady from Nicaragua who immigrated illegally so kindly take your totally wrong impressions of me and miscast them on another deplorable.