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Post by AnalogRearEnd on Oct 24, 2018 23:21:16 GMT
theMess poats:
Take another look at that first sentence. "I suppose that it is fairly normal amongst some people to change their mind about something." Uhhh... Oh really?!
Is this guy an alien? A robot? Or just unbelievably fucking stupid?
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Post by mintyjackhole on Oct 24, 2018 23:32:45 GMT
I vote C!
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Post by antiram on Oct 25, 2018 1:27:34 GMT
I got him to lose his shit in that VU thread somewhere, after I talked about where the VU really got their inspiration from. His reaction was something along the lines of "the nerve of you to come into my thread and contradict what I have already worked so hard to establish in it!" I guess this will blow my identity cover (not that I give a shit; I haven't used that nick in almost four years), but I found it here: Who influenced the VU?
I hate to be that asshole, but it was Tony Conrad who "found" the name, not Angus MacLise. It was Conrad who was Cale's musical partner in the Theater of Eternal Music. Terry Riley actually served as Cale's replacement. Conrad and Cale were the ones who were hired to do the Primitives promotion and gigs, and that is how they met Lou Reed.
If the Mess had put his criticisms that way, I wouldn't have given him such a withering response.
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Post by Felonious Spunk on Oct 25, 2018 1:53:19 GMT
Why doesn’t someone just go down to WalMart or a Trump rally and ask Moe Tucker?
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Post by Boozin' Susan on Oct 25, 2018 5:45:50 GMT
Nothing screams "punch me!" like referring to the Beatles as "the Fabs." Except when they are referred to as "the lads"...
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Oct 25, 2018 5:59:20 GMT
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Post by daved on Oct 25, 2018 12:06:20 GMT
I truly hate these motherfuckers and their so called expertise. They don't know a fucking thing about music, or anything really. Dumb fucks: Ummmm no fuck nuts. Eleventh Earl Of Tard: Rain??? RAIN? WTF? Some Anime perv: Just fuck off, all of you.
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Post by hugofuguzev on Oct 25, 2018 12:53:07 GMT
I had to butt in to that discussion saying McCartney wouldn't need autotune for another thirty years after "Be What You See" came out. Couldn't help myself...
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Post by darthparrox on Oct 25, 2018 15:58:49 GMT
What an ass. Good to see a lot of people on that thread weren't having it from him. As for the Beatles being unaware of the VU, one of the co-founders of The UFO club (one of the first underground clubs, where Pink Floyd, Soft Machine and others played, John Hopkins -now deceased) told me he got hold of a reel to reel of what would become the first VU album. This was late '66 through a contact in MCA (or some other label). He recalled listening to it at night with his girlfriend on the reel to reel and being floored by it. There would have been a small contingent of then 'hip' people in London, who would have been aware of them at that time. It's been said that Epstein wanted to sign the VU, coz he liked the first album so much. Epstein / VU
You mean Joe Boyd, right? Also David Bowie have got copy of acetate of first album via his manager who visited Factory in late 66. In March 67 (same month as LP was released!) Bowie recorded I'm Waiting For The Man with Riot Squad. Also when Cale visited UK in 1965 he circulated demos that band recorded in hope of recording contract. Peter Jenner heard them too and wanted to manage band and actually called them in 1966 only to find out that they were already with Andy. You know which band Jenner got weeks later..
As for Lou/Beatles thing. In Unterberger VU book he quotes vintage 1969 Lou interview where he praise Get Back bootleg that had just leaked out to USA. I'm sure there was also references to Lou quotes in 1960's where he talks about them (mostly positive, as i remember).
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Post by bradman on Oct 25, 2018 16:08:07 GMT
It's unreal how those guys have no idea that pitch correction is software.
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Post by mintyjackhole on Oct 25, 2018 16:26:31 GMT
It's unreal how those guys have no idea that pitch correction is software. Combine that with the thousands upon thousands of poats about how Autotune is the spawn of Satan and has ruined pop music, BUT The Beatles invented it.
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Post by audiopro on Oct 25, 2018 19:59:26 GMT
If The Beatles somehow invented Autotune, how does that explain every vocal Ringo has ever recorded?
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Post by audiobile on Oct 25, 2018 21:11:17 GMT
Although the Fabs invented autotune, the technology was primitive then and Ringo's atonality was too sophisticated.
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Post by amygrant on Oct 25, 2018 21:32:39 GMT
Although the Fabs invented autotune, the technology was primitive then and Ringo's atonality was too sophisticated. John Lenon was going to use it on Double Fantasy but he was soon to go #1 with a bullet.
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Post by graucho on Oct 25, 2018 22:01:08 GMT
What an ass. Good to see a lot of people on that thread weren't having it from him. As for the Beatles being unaware of the VU, one of the co-founders of The UFO club (one of the first underground clubs, where Pink Floyd, Soft Machine and others played, John Hopkins -now deceased) told me he got hold of a reel to reel of what would become the first VU album. This was late '66 through a contact in MCA (or some other label). He recalled listening to it at night with his girlfriend on the reel to reel and being floored by it. There would have been a small contingent of then 'hip' people in London, who would have been aware of them at that time. It's been said that Epstein wanted to sign the VU, coz he liked the first album so much. Epstein / VUYou mean Joe Boyd, right? Also David Bowie have got copy of acetate of first album via his manager who visited Factory in late 66. In March 67 (same month as LP was released!) Bowie recorded I'm Waiting For The Man with Riot Squad. Also when Cale visited UK in 1965 he circulated demos that band recorded in hope of recording contract. Peter Jenner heard them too and wanted to manage band and actually called them in 1966 only to find out that they were already with Andy. You know which band Jenner got weeks later..
As for Lou/Beatles thing. In Unterberger VU book he quotes vintage 1969 Lou interview where he praise Get Back bootleg that had just leaked out to USA. I'm sure there was also references to Lou quotes in 1960's where he talks about them (mostly positive, as i remember).
Didn't know Bowie recorded it at that time. UFO was joint run by John Hopkins and Joe Boyd, then Hopkins got sent to jail for possession of cannabis, after which time Boyd probably ran it without him. He was an interesting character, who'd been involved in some other counter-cultural events, including the 1965 poetry event at the Royal Albert Hall (where Ginsberg and others performed), and International Times (underground newspaper). He was also a photographer. His obit. is here if you're interested. It's well worth looking at: John Hopkins
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