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Post by ledzeppelin2rl on Jul 28, 2019 2:10:20 GMT
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Post by daved on Jul 28, 2019 8:38:23 GMT
Do we need more evidence that that place is filled with lunatics? I mean, I know we already know that, but jeez.
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Post by Felonious Spunk on Jul 28, 2019 13:18:37 GMT
“to grin and bear it when this stuff pops up. The same with the sly political winks and nods with the "woke" crowd.“
Is he sure he’s on SHtv?
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Post by mintyjackhole on Jul 28, 2019 13:21:54 GMT
Nazi SHiTEs fuck off!!!
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Post by bradman on Jul 28, 2019 14:16:53 GMT
Thread is locked.Thievius must have queefed to the Gorts. Of course, if religious content is off-limits, B Olson should be permabanned.
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Post by Norman ‘Whiplash’ Mailer on Jul 28, 2019 16:32:13 GMT
900+ poats in 19 days.
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Post by bigmuff on Jul 28, 2019 16:55:51 GMT
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Post by daved on Jul 29, 2019 13:41:56 GMT
Say It Right:
Well, first of all The Beasties are 1000000 times more rock and roll than the fucking Moody Blues. And second, did I miss the issue where they proclaimed that album as greatest of all time? It's not even considered better than Paul's Boutique!
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Post by bradman on Jul 29, 2019 15:36:04 GMT
It all goes back to politics. Those guys think RS is Pravda, therefore Jizz Wiener is a hip hop mogul. "Colors" their opinions of the RRHoF.
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Post by daved on Jul 29, 2019 16:02:41 GMT
Say It Right: Well, first of all The Beasties are 1000000 times more rock and roll than the fucking Moody Blues. And second, did I miss the issue where they proclaimed that album as greatest of all time? It's not even considered better than Paul's Boutique! Looks like ass face fixed his post: Wonder if he visits here? Hey asshole! Go fuck yourself!
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Post by My Avatar Is A Hot Babe on Jul 29, 2019 16:49:12 GMT
Let's just single out current members then. Blondie pretty much waltzed in. Parallel Lines, which I have on DCC gold, is a nice album. It was for the times and probably left a lasting impression. It could be argued that it was their artistics peak. They had plenty of commerical success afterwards. Did they break any new ground? Maybe for a couple of years, along with The Cars, during the early years of New Wave. To use your standard, they certainly had a cultural impact. Not really sure why it's relevant anyway. Artists like REM, Elvis Costello and Pearl Jam (who will waltz right in) all receive near unanimous critical acclaim, yet you can't prove their supposed greatness by me. Again, just an opinion. The Cars pre-dated REM by a long way. The Cars were getting significant FM airplay when New Wave was barely gaining commercial acceptance. REM came along in the early to mid 80's when the "post punk" (who came up with that?) landscape was secure. Yeah, REM was supposedly hip with college radio, and critics postured that this was what 20 year olds were supposed to listen to at that juncture. So it was enough that REM got in as soon as was humanly possible. Not sure what the direct connection is, but The Cars need to be pegged against their peers. Blondie waltzed in without any resistance, a long time ago.Yeah, going through the Not in the Hall of Fame site, there are several acts, whose fans could more justifiably protest the lack of induction. We all know that the system is rigged and that there's favoritism. Blondie waltzed right in, but The Cars don't even make it to the nomination stage. As for the Rock and Roll HOF, my position has always been that if Blondie were able to waltz in so easily, then The Cars should not have encountered any resistance. Debbie & Chris are buds with Jan, so it's not hard to see why. Then again, it did come as news about RS giving them Best New Artist, which should have aided their cause in some way. This is kind of arbitrary, but if acts like Three Dog Night and Steppenwolf get in but if other nominees such as Yes and The Cars don't, then it's proof positve of the Hall's selective application of their own criteria. Sales figures are NOT part of the stated criteria but "influence" is, and we all accept that this isn't generally defined. However, it can be safely said that Yes was an important act within the progressive rock movement. Ditto for The Cars within New Wave. Although sales are not contigent upon selection, both groups certainly achieved impressive numbers at least in terms of album sales and likely in terms of concert draw (at least in the case of Yes). Musicians can cite inspiration from Yes. For The Cars, certainly if Blondie could waltz in, The Cars should not have encountered previous resistance, if not for the fact that Chris and Debbie were buds with Jann. As another poster indicated, Jann's overall input on the process may be overstated, but it does exist, with Rolling Stone Magazine intertwined. The Beastie Boys waltzed in without resistance. Next year, Rolling Stone posted its "Greatest Debut Albums of All Time" list. At the top was...Beastie Boys. Certainly there must've been a connection to try and justify the induction. :waiting: Pearl Jam waltzes in and Tupac will probably get in too. Yes, The Cars and Chic have been through the process before, so it might be there time. The PC element would probably push for Joan Baez and Depeche Mode, but don't know if they'd have enough support. Kraftwerk was highly influential but probably lacks the support and name recognition. NWA are far more deserving than The Beastie Boys, who just waltzed in without resistance.. Then Rolling Stone tried to camouflage that sham by ranking The Beasties 1st as The Greatest Debut Album of All Time. :laugh: We've witnessed it from both sides. VU had virtually none, but waltzed in whereas H2O oozed it but it took years for them. Barometer is poor choice of words. Precedent is used in the Baseball HOF, why not here? To illustrate, Blondie and The Cars emerged around the same time in New Wave. Enormous success early on for both, and had sustained success after before eventually fizzling. Various comebacks came later. The difference? Debbie & Chris were buds with Jann and had appeared at CBGB's. Both very helpful. Blondie waltzed in relatively early. Meanwhile, it took years for The Cars to even get nominated. Thus, the Moodies had to wait a long time before RnRHoF induction. Meanwhile, the Beastie Boys waltzed in, and Licensed to Ill was RS Greatest Debut Album of All Time. :rolleyes:
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Post by daved on Jul 29, 2019 17:03:53 GMT
What a dull sack of shit
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Post by braindead on Jul 29, 2019 18:30:55 GMT
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Post by aaa-appreciator on Jul 29, 2019 19:44:36 GMT
I can’t remember if this has been brought up (and I’m too lazy to use the search function MyKKKe) but they are getting their knickers in a twist over what is or is not “yacht rock”. The fact the whole genre exists is clearly a bit of fun and no one outside of SHTV is taking it seriously but over there they need it labelled, bottled and preserved. The whole yacht rock thing, to my understanding, is a bit of fun but of course it’s serious business for the SHites. They only deal in definitives and need to tell everyone exactly which specific songs do AND DO NOT (!!) fit in the genre. Talk about sucking the fun out of every last thing. Now up to 79 pages of important academic debate; forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/yacht-rock-revisted-what-yacht-rock-isand-isnt.647689/page-79#post-21770176
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