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Post by Chicken in Black on Mar 24, 2022 4:22:44 GMT
I think all the Capitols are worthwhile. That's why the nosedive in quality afterwards in quality afterwards is so surprising. But, so what? If it's not your thing, there's many thousands of other good recordings out there. There are some really good Reprise albums that rank with the Capitol ones but I feel after the Live at the Sands album the quality starts to decline. Actually it happened before, anything that featured more contemporary songs of the time vs. one of the traditional songs quality goes up and down. Just my view - SHite hat off. As for Steev, I am waiting for the story about the time he shared a bottle of Jack with Francis or ate French toast with Nelson. The Jobim album may look like something extremely opportunistic, it's very short, and it opens with The Girl from Ipanema, but after that track, it may be his last great album, and maybe his finest performance, in a very quiet way. The full set with the sessions for the unreleased second collaborative album (most of the material was repurposed as Sinatra & Company) also works great. I'd say that Ring A Ding-Ding, Sinatra & Strings, Sinatra and Swinging Brass, September of My Years, and the Sinatra/Jobim album are at the level of his Capitol recordings. Then, The Concert Sinatra, It Might As Well Be Swing, All Alone, Watertown and She Shot Me Down are fine, and original enough, but the rest of the studio albums are at best anecdotic.
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Post by 335clone on Mar 24, 2022 4:41:12 GMT
I really like the two albums he made with Count Basie.
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Post by bradman on Mar 24, 2022 9:58:58 GMT
1967 is the cutoff point.
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Post by Chicken in Black on Mar 24, 2022 11:02:25 GMT
Definitely. Up to 1967, it's easier to sort out the lesser albums. There's an overall small drop from the levels of the Capitol albums, but most of them are still good or great. After 1967, you need to handpick the few things what work.
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Post by Aquaholic 2.0 on Mar 24, 2022 13:02:23 GMT
1967 is the cutoff point. First thing I thought of.
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Post by Aquaholic 2.0 on Mar 24, 2022 13:12:30 GMT
The biggest disappointment to me was the “Blues Eyes Is Back” album. I read how great this album was so when I finally had a chance to hear it I walked away thinking it was ok but just felt like something was off. Since my profile isn’t filled out I know I shouldn’t comment on it but there was just something sterile feeling, more manufactured sounding maybe?, to me than anything before or even after. Maybe it was the 1970s production and influence? Maybe I expected more swing? That is the album that Riddle should have been involved in my opinion. SHiTe hat off.
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Post by The Discerning Consumer on Mar 24, 2022 18:05:23 GMT
If we're being serious, I like Everything Happens to Me, the compilation he put together in the 90s. It has good performances from albums I had dismissed, like the one he recorded in England.
No doubt part of his downfall was lack of suitable new material. He was a terrible interpreter of contemporary pop from the 60's onward.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Mar 24, 2022 20:45:01 GMT
If we're being serious, I like Everything Happens to Me, the compilation he put together in the 90s. It has good performances from albums I had dismissed, like the one he recorded in England. No doubt part of his downfall was lack of suitable new material. He was a terrible interpreter of contemporary pop from the 60's onward. A few songs here and there (like Mrs Robinson) make for a trite novelty but the over abundance of them was totally unnecessary.
It's probably not fair to judge the man's later career without also taking into account that he was taking acting seriously at this point too. I think it adds some context.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Mar 24, 2022 21:03:46 GMT
I'd say that Ring A Ding-Ding, Sinatra & Strings, Sinatra and Swinging Brass, September of My Years, and the Sinatra/Jobim album are at the level of his Capitol recordings. Then, The Concert Sinatra, It Might As Well Be Swing, All Alone, Watertown and She Shot Me Down are fine, and original enough, but the rest of the studio albums are at best anecdotic. I downloaded most of these today as apart from Sinatra At The Sands and Watertown*, the Reprise stuff doesn’t hold much appeal based on what I’ve heard. Looking forward to hearing them. *I don’t love Watertown in the way a lot of people do, but it’s an interesting curio, and more listenable than Frank Sinatra Conducts Tone Poems Of Color
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Post by Aquaholic 2.0 on Mar 29, 2022 0:34:36 GMT
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Post by sₚⲁᵣₖydₒg on Mar 29, 2022 1:55:41 GMT
Nowadays he actually does pee his pants. Jada would kill for a mullet like that though.
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Post by Norman ‘Whiplash’ Mailer on Apr 7, 2022 2:42:46 GMT
“I don’t have time to answer your question, I’ve gotta run.” (spends next thirty minutes poating bullshit)
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Post by Aquaholic 2.0 on Apr 9, 2022 13:51:10 GMT
MRamble:
Steev:
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Post by Aquaholic 2.0 on Apr 20, 2022 14:08:50 GMT
Originalsnuffy:
Steev:
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Post by The Discerning Consumer on Apr 20, 2022 18:31:27 GMT
"Hate in your heart" when you don't like a pop group. Heh. As if it would be interesting to read a Doors-lovers thread.
If I posted "I love The Doors!" I would rightfully expect others to remind me of their dumbest songs.
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