john lennonist and George Harrison laugh at Sir Macca
Feb 19, 2020 19:35:47 GMT
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john lennonist said:
More revisionist history from Paul, as usual (check out the number of times George Harrison refers to Paul doing this in "Anthology") :shake: :rolleyes: -- If you have ever seen an original Red Label First Pressing of the band's FIRST RELEASE, "Love Me Do" / "P.S. I Love You" the credits are "Lennon / McCartney".
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john lennonist said:
Paul's re-writing of history is legendary (note where, in "Anthology," George comments about Paul doing so and laughs).I don't think he had anything to do with "Mr. Kite" except for being one of the several people in the control room (including George Martin) who cut up a bunch of tapes, threw them all in the air and randomly re-assembled them.
Paul in recent years has commented about how he co-wrote "A Hard Day's Night". :rolleyes:
Until Paul's revision, the story has always been, as told by the "A Hard Day's Night" movie producer Walter Shenson, that he (Shenson) had dinner one night as they were nearing the end of the filming with John only. *
Shenson said he wasn't happy with any of the songs for the title track of the movie.
He said John showed up the next morning with "A Hard Day's Night," complete.
He said it was one of the most amazing things he'd ever witnessed (to which I'd agree).
* BTW, I had the wonderful experience of spending an hour or so with Shenson in the 80's :righton: (his assistant at the time was a friend of mine).
Since I always thought the "A Hard Day's Night" on-demand-writing-in-one-night is one of the most incredible musical things I'd ever heard, I asked him about it.
He recounted the story in exactly the same way as he always did:
John, alone... no Paul involvement.
Heck, John was the main writer on practically the entire "A Hard Day's Night" album.
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john lennonist said:
This is the first I've heard that Paul first revealed the band had broken up by being asked by a reporter. when asked a few years later "i was asked a question and i answered it"
The quote you refer to is about confirming he'd taken LSD.
If he actually has stated that the break-up was leaked by his being so fed up when the journo asked him if he had any plans to record with the Beatles again he said no, it's another sign of his legendary historical revisionism (which has been pointed out by numerous journalists, and repeated many times by Harrison, who is seen mentioning it and laughing about it in "Anthology.")
Paul had a print out (essentially a press release, in which he asked and then answered his own questions) included in LP copies of his self-titled "Bowl and Cherries" album (at least the first U.S. pressings). I got that album within a week of release and it had it in there.
That was the first time that a Beatles break-up was made public.
And not only John, but George also has been quoted that Paul broke the agreed-upon "silence" rule with said press release to boost sales of his album.
(Note also that he got into a shoving match with Ringo [during which Paul threatened Ringo with bodily harm] to force the Beatles to delay the already-set release day of "Let it Be" so Paul could release his solo debut first).
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john lennonist said:
:wtf:Are you kidding?!
Macca's been trying to switch the credits on many songs for decades! Beginning waaay before digital audio -- and the sometimes-shortened digital listings (which is his latest excuse).
This interview contains at least the fourth different version he's told of why he wants the "Lennon-McCartney" credit reversed (earlier it was because of sheet music [and at least some other "reason" I can't remember], then it was online listings, now it's because of iPhones or something).
And this interview contains at least the second different version he's told of how the "Lennon-McCartney" credit was first devised:
In this account, he said it happened because he and John were supposed to meet Brian Epstein in his office (when and for what reason he doesn't say) and because John showed up first, Epstein decided to list Lennon first in their composing credit. :laugh: :biglaugh: :laugh:
He's previously said that Lennon's taking his vacation with Brian in Spain was a clever plot by John so that he could get his name listed first. :rolleyes:
And, at different times, he's mentioned other "reasons."
The fact is, that in the notebook in which McCartney wrote down all of their songs (in the days they played hooky from school and wrote in the "front room" of the McCartney home) years before they'd met Epstein, or probably ever played a gig, Paul listed them as: "Another Lennon-McCartney" classic or song or composition or masterpiece or something (can't remember what the word he used after "Another Lennon-McCartney").
Paul's revision of history is legendary:
George H. comments and laughs about it on "Anthology."
Paul now claims to have co-written "A Hard Day's Night," which, as Walter Shenson said in numerous interviews -- and repeated to me in person -- is that he and John had dinner one night in which Shenson said he needed a great title song for the film (he didn't think any they had up to that point worked), and John went away and came down the next morning with "A Hard Day's Night"... which he had written by himself.
And McCartney's boast that they refused to perform in America until they had a #1 record here, when the fact was that the Sullivan deal was set months before "I Want to Hold Your Hand" was even released in America.
... and on and on and on...
A major author on the Beatles (can't remember who it is at the moment, but I may have a link [ I saw it online]) says no definitive story of what was going on "inside" the band was possible once George died because (paraphrasing) "Ringo wasn't really involved in a lot of the writing and working out of songs, and Paul is totally unreliable because he rewrites history all the time."
I frankly find it very sad that one of the most accomplished musicians -- and one of the most famous people -- of the last century, is so insecure.
Seriously -- the guy exceeded every ambition of money and fame and adulation (he actually mentions several times in this interview how much he craves adulation, and how much he is stung by even the smallest slight)... and it's just not enough for him.
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john lennonist said:
"Compleat Beatles" The best documentary of the band due to its being objective and not falling into the revisionist history that one member of the band (in particular) forced upon "Anthology". (There are a few amusing moments in "Anthology" where George Harrison laughs about some of the revisionist history that's been included).
john lennonist said:
If it gets released, that would be the only reason.No George around to push back on Paul's re-writing history (again... and again) like George did in "Anthology".
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john lennonist said:
Paul McCartney?"Engaging in a bit of revisionist history"?
Perish the thought!
There's a moment in "Anthology" where George responds to an interviewer's question (or maybe he just brings it up himself) and he literally laughs out loud about all of Paul's constantly revising history.
Weird, and frankly sad, that a guy who's accomplished so much is so insecure he has to pad his resume.
john lennonist said:
This has always been my theory of why he bought the rights to the greatest, most-unbiased Beatles Doc ever, "The Compleat Beatles" (a 1982 British doc) -- which will never see the light of day again (but I have my copies!) -- because Paul couldn't control the narrative of the Beatles history (and, often in his case, re-history) of the Beatles story.There's a section in Anthology where George is sitting on a couch laughing about how Paul often rewrites Beatles history in his favor.
john lennonist said:
That's just another of the Myriad McCartney's Revisionist History Tour.He's the only one whoever claimed that they "refused to go to America until we had a #1 hit there" -- and he's repeated it for decades... despite the fact that it's easily proven to be untrue.
In "Anthology" during one of the interviews of Harrison, he laughs as he comments about how often Paul revises history (and always to his benefit... or ego).
:shake: :doh:
john lennonist said:
The magnitude of reinvention of Beatles history and Wings history and his personal life history will be other-worldly.I saw him once on Oprah or a similar sort of "mostly-women-viewers" show say (to great cheers) that he and Linda never spent one night apart during their entire marriage!
Guess he forgot that in the liner notes for the song "My Brave Face" he discussed that the song was about a time Linda was away from him for a few days... and I'll take a wild guess that there were dozens more nights apart.
To say nothing of the "we refused to go to America until we had a number one hit there," apparently missing out on the fact that the deal was done (or well in the works) weeks before "I Want to Hold You Hand" had even been released.
Or that he co-wrote "A Hard Day's Night"
Or that...
[There's a place in the "Anthology" film where George cracks up regarding all of Paul's history reinventions]
Sheesh :shake: :wtf:
john lennonist said:
I am literally over and out over arguing with you about this, but I specifically remember an interview where Paul says John came to him that night and that sat in their hotel bedroom and wrote it together.Are you telling me Paul only discussed the song once in his life?
I'll give you a non-specific source -- George Harrison laughing in "Anthology" about how often Paul re-writes Beatles history.