Post by j365 on Jun 16, 2020 22:59:47 GMT
Sargon says:
I have two of these I bought when they were first offered. One is on display and is sealed. The other is "double" sealed - still sealed in the shipping box.
My Concert for Georges were only 1000 copies made. I opened one and the other I left sealed but finally removed it from the shipping box (but left it sealed) because I wanted to actually "see" what the tapestry design was in the round window. (Don't know the number of it though). OMG! Mazzy has the most BEAUTIFUL sunburst tapestry on his! I'm convinced they cut it custom for him! (He actually WENT to the concert!!!) I'm just a poser!:winkgrin:
The old adage is something is only as valuable as what you can get for it. But from your list here, these are actual "sales" values.
But for me I would add to this adage that you have to be "willing" to sell something to get that kind of money for it.
The "value" of these for me is $0.00 in that I have NEVER sold anything I have collected multiple copies of.
But I DO attach a "theoretical" value to them in that the "prices" speak to the collectability of them as well as of course, that they only made 3000.
I have long since had to abandon any "justification" for buying multiple copies from a financial "investment" position. I never sell. I'm simply just having a lot of fun.
There are those that would "sell" their Superman No.1. I'm the type that would "keep" their Superman No.1. People "define" their fun differently. This is MY kind of fun.
jl151080 says:
Just out of interest; why do you buy two copies if both are sealed? I understand if one is sealed and one is opened to play it; but why two sealed copies?
I'm in no way criticising at all - I have some sealed items myself, though not my Wings 1971-1973 box!
I'm just curious!
Sargon says:
It's a GREAT QUESTION. (Sorry about the long post. It's hard to evaluate 45 years of collecting habits in one or two lines).
For example, I own 6 sealed original Apple All Things Must Pass as well as many opened copies, a couple of the 2000 color cover LPs sealed, a mint Japanese pressing for audio quality etc.
My problem isn't having multiple copies that are sealed. I LOVE it. Kind of like being in a record store back in the day. Also many of these things I bought for list price in the 70s, some not. Go price ONE sealed All Things Must pass on Apple from 1970 and you might understand why having 6 sealed with original Apple hype stickers on them is fun for me.
Only thing more fun is LISTENING to this masterpiece over and over and over.
My best bud used to "razz" me in the 70s for buying multiple copies of original apple releases. But he stopped when they stopped making them and the prices skyrocketed.
What I have "discovered" over the years is that having ANYTHING on Apple SEALED commands a very high collector value for the simple reason that most people don't have sealed original stuff. I noticed Mazzy had multiple copies of some really cool stuff too - from what I was viewing in his video.
Also, if I "jack up" one of my records, I can simply go and open a fresh sealed copy from 45 years ago without having to pay high prices or listen to digital remasters I hate.
Yes. My problem also is not opening EITHER copy of my Wings 71-73 box. Everything I own, I have at least ONE opened copy to enjoy and backups that are sealed.
What happened is as soon as I got them, I saw one sell on Ebay for around 1999.00.
This gave me "pause" about dropping the value of this set by over half from opening it. I'm NOT used to seeing this new stuff have such INSTANT high collector value.
Like I've said, I don't ever sell anything, but the market "value" made this pretty high as a "collectable". Yes, value does go into the collectibility of something.
Because I DO open a copy from my regular Deluxe Boxes, I end up getting 95% of what is in the "collector" editions anyway.
I STARTED and continued my archive collection with a double set. One sealed and one opened. I originally had NO awareness nor intention of buying Collector editions.
They don't "fit" my plans, nor my display, nor my original budgeting. But I'm in the habit of buying more than one of something, so when they two showed up, I ALREADY had my sealed deluxe and my opened deluxe. So the "need" to open one of the 71-73 boxes was greatly diminished. Also my best friend copied the music in it for me.
Because of this I DO need to resolve getting ONE copy of the Collector editions. But old habits are hard to break!
I do have multiple butcher covers and other things that are only in "opened" condition with many things in opened MINT condition.
But there is nothing like having swaths of original stuff, still factory sealed from decades ago, and purchased for no more than 6.00 each. My 7 Apple Imagines cost no more than this.
The difficulty today, is that "keeping up" with the "continuity" of multiple copies in my 45 year old collection has gotten VERY expensive today.
There is an "artificial scarcity" built into the "new" stuff out created in limited runs as well as just the cost of things going way up.
The STRENGTH of my collection is in the sealed copies I have. It's the "direction" I went with decades ago back when things were cheap. I've kept this "continuity" going ever since. Others have collections of just one each of something, but their strength is that they have many more actual representative items that were made through the years. Mine is unique with the direction I chose to go with it. When Apple went kaput in 76, the deletion of Apple titles strengthened the direction I went back in the 70s.
Yes, I have TWO Concert for Georges, but I still think I'm a pretty O.K. person, even though someone somewhere, would have bought my extra copy from the original site.
My 70s collecting and it's merit"came into focus" when Apple went extinct. What I'm acquiring now will be much more meaningful 30 years from now.
I have two of these I bought when they were first offered. One is on display and is sealed. The other is "double" sealed - still sealed in the shipping box.
My Concert for Georges were only 1000 copies made. I opened one and the other I left sealed but finally removed it from the shipping box (but left it sealed) because I wanted to actually "see" what the tapestry design was in the round window. (Don't know the number of it though). OMG! Mazzy has the most BEAUTIFUL sunburst tapestry on his! I'm convinced they cut it custom for him! (He actually WENT to the concert!!!) I'm just a poser!:winkgrin:
The old adage is something is only as valuable as what you can get for it. But from your list here, these are actual "sales" values.
But for me I would add to this adage that you have to be "willing" to sell something to get that kind of money for it.
The "value" of these for me is $0.00 in that I have NEVER sold anything I have collected multiple copies of.
But I DO attach a "theoretical" value to them in that the "prices" speak to the collectability of them as well as of course, that they only made 3000.
I have long since had to abandon any "justification" for buying multiple copies from a financial "investment" position. I never sell. I'm simply just having a lot of fun.
There are those that would "sell" their Superman No.1. I'm the type that would "keep" their Superman No.1. People "define" their fun differently. This is MY kind of fun.
jl151080 says:
Just out of interest; why do you buy two copies if both are sealed? I understand if one is sealed and one is opened to play it; but why two sealed copies?
I'm in no way criticising at all - I have some sealed items myself, though not my Wings 1971-1973 box!
I'm just curious!
Sargon says:
It's a GREAT QUESTION. (Sorry about the long post. It's hard to evaluate 45 years of collecting habits in one or two lines).
For example, I own 6 sealed original Apple All Things Must Pass as well as many opened copies, a couple of the 2000 color cover LPs sealed, a mint Japanese pressing for audio quality etc.
My problem isn't having multiple copies that are sealed. I LOVE it. Kind of like being in a record store back in the day. Also many of these things I bought for list price in the 70s, some not. Go price ONE sealed All Things Must pass on Apple from 1970 and you might understand why having 6 sealed with original Apple hype stickers on them is fun for me.
Only thing more fun is LISTENING to this masterpiece over and over and over.
My best bud used to "razz" me in the 70s for buying multiple copies of original apple releases. But he stopped when they stopped making them and the prices skyrocketed.
What I have "discovered" over the years is that having ANYTHING on Apple SEALED commands a very high collector value for the simple reason that most people don't have sealed original stuff. I noticed Mazzy had multiple copies of some really cool stuff too - from what I was viewing in his video.
Also, if I "jack up" one of my records, I can simply go and open a fresh sealed copy from 45 years ago without having to pay high prices or listen to digital remasters I hate.
Yes. My problem also is not opening EITHER copy of my Wings 71-73 box. Everything I own, I have at least ONE opened copy to enjoy and backups that are sealed.
What happened is as soon as I got them, I saw one sell on Ebay for around 1999.00.
This gave me "pause" about dropping the value of this set by over half from opening it. I'm NOT used to seeing this new stuff have such INSTANT high collector value.
Like I've said, I don't ever sell anything, but the market "value" made this pretty high as a "collectable". Yes, value does go into the collectibility of something.
Because I DO open a copy from my regular Deluxe Boxes, I end up getting 95% of what is in the "collector" editions anyway.
I STARTED and continued my archive collection with a double set. One sealed and one opened. I originally had NO awareness nor intention of buying Collector editions.
They don't "fit" my plans, nor my display, nor my original budgeting. But I'm in the habit of buying more than one of something, so when they two showed up, I ALREADY had my sealed deluxe and my opened deluxe. So the "need" to open one of the 71-73 boxes was greatly diminished. Also my best friend copied the music in it for me.
Because of this I DO need to resolve getting ONE copy of the Collector editions. But old habits are hard to break!
I do have multiple butcher covers and other things that are only in "opened" condition with many things in opened MINT condition.
But there is nothing like having swaths of original stuff, still factory sealed from decades ago, and purchased for no more than 6.00 each. My 7 Apple Imagines cost no more than this.
The difficulty today, is that "keeping up" with the "continuity" of multiple copies in my 45 year old collection has gotten VERY expensive today.
There is an "artificial scarcity" built into the "new" stuff out created in limited runs as well as just the cost of things going way up.
The STRENGTH of my collection is in the sealed copies I have. It's the "direction" I went with decades ago back when things were cheap. I've kept this "continuity" going ever since. Others have collections of just one each of something, but their strength is that they have many more actual representative items that were made through the years. Mine is unique with the direction I chose to go with it. When Apple went kaput in 76, the deletion of Apple titles strengthened the direction I went back in the 70s.
Yes, I have TWO Concert for Georges, but I still think I'm a pretty O.K. person, even though someone somewhere, would have bought my extra copy from the original site.
My 70s collecting and it's merit"came into focus" when Apple went extinct. What I'm acquiring now will be much more meaningful 30 years from now.
