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Post by darthparrox on Jul 9, 2020 9:23:46 GMT
Recent Beatles remixes are absolutely useless because original stereo mixes exist for 99,9% of catalog (unlike Beach Boys). The most useless thing was of course to remix Abbey Road
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Post by daved on Jul 9, 2020 10:10:26 GMT
Is there one single case of a remix being in any way beneficial? Even if they are initially *interesting*, I have never felt the need to hear them ever again. The Steven Wilson XTC remixes are pretty useless. Most of those albums were already perfect. Hugh Padgham engineered most of the better ones for cryin' out loud! And the Dukes stereo remix sucks when compared to the original. Even Rush's Vapor Trails, which is one of the worst sounding albums of all time, didn't benefit from a remix as some of the mixing decisions were horrible. I'm trying to think if I've even heard the Ziggy remix. Can't see how you can top the original. The Beatles ones are interesting for a listen and then that's it. Abbey Road might be the most redundant remix of all time.
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Post by darthparrox on Jul 9, 2020 10:25:43 GMT
I'd say remixing needs only for stuff that had never been in stereo before. Remixing perfect sounding stereo again for remixing sake is should be banned from the industry. Steven Wilson remixes of King Crimson catalogue is absolutely useless thing on earth - he only adds compression and make stuff brighter and "bigger" sounding. Remixes could be fun for spot differences in the songs but Wilson doesn't even have them! And now Fripp releasing second wave of Wilson remixes, i.e. re-doing stuff that Wilson done 10 years ago!!!
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Post by Chicken in Black on Jul 9, 2020 10:29:11 GMT
Frank Sinatra sings only for the lonely. The mono mix is the reference but the new stereo mix (based on a different set of tapes, as both the mono and the stereo versions were recorded simultaneously by different crews using different equipment) brings back some of the intimacy of this version.
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Post by darthparrox on Jul 9, 2020 10:42:05 GMT
Is there one single case of a remix being in any way beneficial? Even if they are initially *interesting*, I have never felt the need to hear them ever again. Pet Sounds, haha. Really, this is one of the best remixes not only from Linnett but from entire point of remixing. I had never clicked with that album until i heard stereo version. Yes, we know that Brian was mono freak and deaf but we are not. And it was Brian who signed off on remixing and approving it. In 1995-1996 he was not zombie yet. After that Linnett remixes were starting going downhill.
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Post by bradman on Jul 9, 2020 12:03:50 GMT
Is there one single case of a remix being in any way beneficial? Even if they are initially *interesting*, I have never felt the need to hear them ever again. The Steven Wilson XTC remixes are pretty useless. Most of those albums were already perfect. Hugh Padgham engineered most of the better ones for cryin' out loud! And the Dukes stereo remix sucks when compared to the original. Even Rush's Vapor Trails, which is one of the worst sounding albums of all time, didn't benefit from a remix as some of the mixing decisions were horrible. I'm trying to think if I've even heard the Ziggy remix. Can't see how you can top the original. The Beatles ones are interesting for a listen and then that's it. Abbey Road might be the most redundant remix of all time. Yeah, the attraction of those XTCs is the 5.1 and the bonus material.
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Post by Sanjay Gupton on Jul 9, 2020 12:16:29 GMT
Is there one single case of a remix being in any way beneficial? Even if they are initially *interesting*, I have never felt the need to hear them ever again. I think on that same note, in most cases the bonus tracks on deluxe issues of things are mostly a waste unless they're from a period concert in killer quality or actual, completed songs. Stones fans all bitch about how Jagger finished vocals on the bonus tracks for Exile and Some Girls. I really love them. If Plundered My Soul had just been an unfinished instrumental, people would have bitched that they never finished it and that it would be good enough for release if they had. As it is, I like it enough that I pull it out and play the bonus CD because it's not just rehashed bootlegged instrumental backing tracks. Same with Some Girls. My only complaint was that the bonus disks didn't come out on a vinyl version. Anyways, so now The Stones are gonna release a deluxe reissue of Goat's Head Soup. People haven't heard it yet, and they're complaining that Jagger might have added vocals or guitars. I'm just glad that it's going to finally put the Brussels 73 concert on officially released vinyl at a cost I can live with. I can see if they had decided to take Angie and make it a duet with Taylor Swift or asked Slash to add guitar parts to something. That would be something I'm completely not interested in, but Mick Jagger is still Mick Jagger and if he wants to finish a song for a project, I think that's great. Sometimes it really works and sometimes it doesn't (then again maybe it doesn't because the unreleased song just wasn't that good anyway). It's nice to get a bonus disk you'll actually listen to more than once, though. I listened to some Steven Wilson remixes on Spotify and I could only think, "What's the point?"
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Post by Chicken in Black on Jul 9, 2020 13:02:15 GMT
Brussels, along with Leeds 71, may be the best thing they've done live.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Jul 9, 2020 14:33:04 GMT
Is there one single case of a remix being in any way beneficial? Even if they are initially *interesting*, I have never felt the need to hear them ever again. I think on that same note, in most cases the bonus tracks on deluxe issues of things are mostly a waste unless they're from a period concert in killer quality or actual, completed songs. Stones fans all bitch about how Jagger finished vocals on the bonus tracks for Exile and Some Girls. I really love them. If Plundered My Soul had just been an unfinished instrumental, people would have bitched that they never finished it and that it would be good enough for release if they had. As it is, I like it enough that I pull it out and play the bonus CD because it's not just rehashed bootlegged instrumental backing tracks. Same with Some Girls. My only complaint was that the bonus disks didn't come out on a vinyl version. Anyways, so now The Stones are gonna release a deluxe reissue of Goat's Head Soup. People haven't heard it yet, and they're complaining that Jagger might have added vocals or guitars. I'm just glad that it's going to finally put the Brussels 73 concert on officially released vinyl at a cost I can live with. I can see if they had decided to take Angie and make it a duet with Taylor Swift or asked Slash to add guitar parts to something. That would be something I'm completely not interested in, but Mick Jagger is still Mick Jagger and if he wants to finish a song for a project, I think that's great. Sometimes it really works and sometimes it doesn't (then again maybe it doesn't because the unreleased song just wasn't that good anyway). It's nice to get a bonus disk you'll actually listen to more than once, though. I listened to some Steven Wilson remixes on Spotify and I could only think, "What's the point?" Plundered My Soul came out at a weird point in my life where I was without internet (aside from late at night when I could balance my laptop on the windowsill and catch someone's wifi signal...) I knew the new Exile was coming soon, and the song came on the radio. I didn't hear the introduction, but I knew right away that it was the Stones. And damn, it sounded as good as anything they had done. Sure, Jagger sounded older and the lyrics definitely read like his later writing, but it's a solid track and would fit in among their very best. I'll take old man Jagger giving it his all over a vintage Jagger scratch vocal. The Some Girls tracks really benefited from the overdubs. (Although the Keith version of Soul Survivor from the Exile bonus is my favorite version.)
As for good remixes: John Lennon's seventies albums and Live Peace In Toronto, all the album tracks by the Graham Bond Organization remixed on the Wade In The Water box set. Oh, and plenty of outtakes that have been released by various artists that were later remixed and re-released. Like stuff by The Doors. All the outtakes on the "Box Set" kinda sound like shit, but when remixed for Perception sounded much better.
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Post by respiratoryproblems on Jul 9, 2020 17:13:54 GMT
Is there one single case of a remix being in any way beneficial? Even if they are initially *interesting*, I have never felt the need to hear them ever again. It’s not The Beatles, but the updated mix of the pre-Shins album by Flake Music improves it no end. It’s at least as good as the best Shins album now, whereas before it was just lower-tier indie mush. The absolute best remix which destroys the original and is actually really fucking good music is the 2016 remix of The Texas-Jerusalem Crossroads by Lift To Experience. The original sounds like a demo now, and I loved that album for about fifteen years but can’t listen to it now.
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Post by aaa-appreciator on Jul 11, 2020 20:46:42 GMT
Here he is with a Yes master tape. He looks shifty as fuck. Like he has one focus and that’s getting out via the nearest emergency exit with that tape in his mitts without being spotted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 21:30:11 GMT
Does this fumblefuck ever wear anything besides T-shirts’ with glasses hanging off the neck?
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Post by Brick Wall on Jul 11, 2020 23:39:03 GMT
Fortunately security is right there on the left blocking the shitbag's escape.
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Post by Felonious Spunk on Sept 4, 2020 14:14:24 GMT
EuuTube? Is that where they keep lamb videos? How do you expect anyone to know what you’re talking about? Yikes! If I’ve told you once, I’ve told you a thousand times use the correct names of things so the algorithms can find these threads. Heh. Can a gorf please fix this poat?
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