bradman
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Post by bradman on Apr 9, 2020 18:21:31 GMT
Trump was willing to be impeached to not face Biden. That fact that you actually believe that is really sad. Grief has several stages.
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Post by AnalogRearEnd on Apr 9, 2020 18:48:03 GMT
You're not from here, are you. I'm not, no. That doesn't change what's on that recording though.
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bradman
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Post by bradman on Apr 9, 2020 20:09:45 GMT
It also doesn't change Sanders into a successful presidential candidate.
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Post by surfinjesus on Apr 9, 2020 20:17:49 GMT
You're not from here, are you. I'm not, no. That doesn't change what's on that recording though. Perhaps you’re talking about right before the NH Primary, when Trump said “Frankly, I’d rather run against Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders, because Sanders has real followers, whether you like him or not, whether you agree with him or not.” That was when Biden was basically a non-entity in the Primaries. Of course, he’s still basically a non-entity, just with the added title of “presumptive nominee”. And that only happened when two of the leading candidates inexplicably dropped out days before Super Tuesday, one of them quitting mere hours before her home state polls opened. Nothing at all corrupt or suspicious about that.
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Post by surfinjesus on Apr 9, 2020 20:19:02 GMT
It also doesn't change Sanders into a successful presidential candidate. Nor Biden. You’ve made it quite clear you’re a Bernie-basher. But what isn’t clear is why it’s so important to you that you’re still bothering to bash.
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Post by bradman on Apr 9, 2020 23:44:30 GMT
I agree with Sanders on nearly everything, I only maintain his utter unelectability and dismal failure as a candidate shouldn't take his most fervent supporters eyes from the prise.
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Post by bradman on Apr 9, 2020 23:46:26 GMT
I'm not, no. That doesn't change what's on that recording though. Perhaps you’re talking about right before the NH Primary, when Trump said “Frankly, I’d rather run against Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders, because Sanders has real followers, whether you like him or not, whether you agree with him or not.” That was when Biden was basically a non-entity in the Primaries. Of course, he’s still basically a non-entity, just with the added title of “presumptive nominee”. And that only happened when two of the leading candidates inexplicably dropped out days before Super Tuesday, one of them quitting mere hours before her home state polls opened. Nothing at all corrupt or suspicious about that. Conspiracy Theory doesn't mitigate Sanders being destroyed at the ballot box by a candidate who is non compos mentis.
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Post by surfinjesus on Apr 10, 2020 0:24:46 GMT
That unfortunately pretty much describes most of your responses on this particular topic.
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Post by surfinjesus on Apr 10, 2020 0:27:09 GMT
And what “conspiracy theory”? Two of the leading candidates DID inexplicably quit right before Super Tuesday. What the fuck?
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Post by kingdiamond on Apr 10, 2020 9:21:27 GMT
And what “conspiracy theory”? Two of the leading candidates DID inexplicably quit right before Super Tuesday. What the fuck?
If I had to guess, I'd say some backroom deals were made before Super Tuesday. It doesn't make sense that Mayor Pete and Klobuchar dropped out so soon. Pete finished first in IA-despite the caucus debacle-and showed a strong 2nd place finish in NH. Likewise, Klobuchar had a strong showing in NH. Those candidates and some of the other ones were splitting the centrist vote and someone figured out that if there was only one centrist candidate against Sanders, they would likely start winning some states. And it worked. It was a smart move for them actually. And the fact that Senile Joe was the candidate chosen for everyone else to rally around, I can only assume that Barack Obama played a huge part in that. I think it's going to backfire on them when it comes to the general election. Trump has mismanaged the pandemic on just about every conceivable level and yet his popularity has gone up. I'm actually glad it turned out this way so I don't have to be too upset when Biden loses. Biden does not stand for anything I care about and I won't vote for him. Many progressives held their noses and voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. They won't do it again.
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Post by Sanjay Gupton on Apr 10, 2020 13:09:56 GMT
I don't understand why Bernie's staunchest supporters are always so surprised that the DNC rewards the people that have raised millions for the DNC and their candidates over Bernie, who runs as an independent unless he wants to be President and isn't a democrat. Did the DNC do something to screw Sanders? Probably. Why wouldn't they? I'm not saying it's not a stupid system, because I think it's as stupid as it can get and has finally reached its inevitable conclusion, but I'll never understand why so many seem so pissed about it. But I'll hold my nose and vote for anyone over Trump. There is a difference between Dems and Republicans, even though the Dems are now essentially Reagan Republicans, but they're better than Trump when it comes to everything. You only have two choices. One is the dumbest fucker on the planet.
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Post by surfinjesus on Apr 11, 2020 0:47:37 GMT
....I'll never understand why so many seem so pissed about it. Because, as you accurately observed, Dems are now essentially Reagan Republicans You only have two choices. One is the dumbest fucker on the planet. And the other is that asshole Trump
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Post by Potsie Hoofman on Apr 11, 2020 1:09:24 GMT
Look, we're getting trump again this year. We may not like it, but I picture one of these scenarios going down.
1. More interference. We know it's gone down before. We know it'll go down again. We all know what happened last time. Even if an illegitimate victory, to trump and his ilk, it doesn't matter how you won, so long as you did.
2. Trump refuses to accept a loss. Massive problems in the streets. Because, the thing is, if trump wins with proven interference again, they'll just shout down anyone that dares speak up about it. However, should trump lose, they'll turn on a dime and start hollering about interference.
We all know how it works in trumpland.
1. I didn't do it 2. Maybe I did do it, but you can't prove it 3. I did do it and you proved it 4. I did do it, but is it really such a crime? 5. I did do it, and it is a crime, but what are you gonna do about it, snowflake? You just can't get over the election. 6. I'll do it again.
Bear in mind, I do not desire another trump term, so this isn't bragging. I'm just bracing myself. I'm a Bernie guy, but I'll gladly hold my nose and vote Biden just to laugh at all the trump clowns and start whining about "accepting the results" should Biden win. But he won't.
We're getting trump.
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Post by hoffa_nagila on Apr 11, 2020 1:10:54 GMT
....I'll never understand why so many seem so pissed about it. Because, as you accurately observed, Dems are now essentially Reagan Republicans You only have two choices. One is the dumbest fucker on the planet. And the other is that asshole Trump The only hope is that unlike Trump, Biden will surround himself with capable and well-meaning folks.
Not saying it will happen (or that it will matter as far as getting elected.) Really grasping at straws to find a sliver of hope right now.
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Post by surfinjesus on Apr 11, 2020 1:24:31 GMT
Really grasping at straws to find a sliver of hope right now. Maybe those won’t be the choices in November.
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